Image Line Acquires UVI

[vurt]

The former CEO of NI is now at IL. I think their plan is to no longer be just a small indie developer. They now want to grow the company.

Robert Linke was not CEO at NI, but C3PO. Not the same thing.

camp protocol droid? fluent in over 6 million languages? including batchi?

[martinjuenke]

Google Trends data shows that FL Studio gets more searches than Ableton worldwide. Change the drop down menu for regional or national comparisons and you’ll see Ableton is more popular in some English-speaking countries.

Search is clearly not sales, but it’s a pretty good sign of how active a user base is.

https://trends.google.com/trends/explor ... 11b6htflg9

5B3FF3E6-3501-42BF-909D-E2CB608FD4AD.png

OMG, Bitwig is dead!

[SpankyGoalie]

OMG, Bitwig is dead!

[pdxindy]

Garageband is likely the most widely installed...

Nope, FL is. There are way more Windows users than Mac users in the world.

Even IL itself only claims 10 millions users... Garageband comes preinstalled on iPads and there have been more than 500 million of them sold. Garageband also runs on the iPhone and there are like a billion iPhone users. Top that you FL freak!

[machinesworking]

OMG, Bitwig is dead!

Considering my most two used DAWs are Bitwig and Digital Performer I got worried one day and did the math. It takes about ten thousand users to keep a DAW afloat. Just a stupid exercise, but it really isn't impossible to maintain a DAW if you have over 10K in users who will buy the upgrades every year or two.

When you start adding up the numbers it makes you wonder what some DAW developers are doing with all that extra cash? Someone mentioned that you really have a law of diminishing returns with programers, something like 5 or so is optimal for a project like a DAW. That makes sense.

[pdxindy]

OMG, Bitwig is dead!

According to that chart, it was never even born!

[jamcat]

Someone mentioned that you really have a law of diminishing returns with programers, something like 5 or so is optimal for a project like a DAW.

Lower than that. You’ll have a single lead developer and maybe a couple code-monkeys who implement his designs.

Multiple people writing the same program means there isn’t a single person who knows how it works.

[Cyforce]

It`s kinda odd, to see some of these comments on FL Studio - it`s being just used by "teenagers" and not really professionals, in a pretty biased way. But the fact is - many use it (even pros) because of its workflow. The same average of people, using Ableton Live for example. Maybe FL Studio is more prominent among younger users, but that doesn`t makes it a bad product or daw...

Let's just hope UVI stays as it is, doing great customer care and creating good products. Maybe this business-deal gives UVI more security for the future, allowing them to maintain safer or do more products. With the probably upcoming more exposure to the FL Studio users, at least for UVI, it will be a good situation I assume.

[Double Tap]

OMG, Bitwig is dead!

Considering my most two used DAWs are Bitwig and Digital Performer I got worried one day and did the math. It takes about ten thousand users to keep a DAW afloat. Just a stupid exercise, but it really isn't impossible to maintain a DAW if you have over 10K in users who will buy the upgrades every year or two.

When you start adding up the numbers it makes you wonder what some DAW developers are doing with all that extra cash? Someone mentioned that you really have a law of diminishing returns with programers, something like 5 or so is optimal for a project like a DAW. That makes sense.

Yeah, think about the impact Serum has had, even if it's just on Youtube's bottom line from all the how-to-make-a-dubstep-bass videos - and Xfer is basically just Steve Duda and his mate and you can go and chat to him on his Discord.

[Caine123]

If Roland releases a new hardware synth for 300 bucks and some new teenage pop star makes with it a so called HIT (or it is made a HIT lol) then the Roland Hardware for 300 bucks is nothing professional and bad *irony*

[Hevy_IL]

UVI is an established company that has enough developers in its disposal. Why should they stop to produce VST/AU etc.?

I don’t know. Why did they remove VST support from their entire existing plugin line years ago?

It wasn’t for a lack of ability. They did it for some other self-interested reason. And they still have never brought VST support back to all those plugins. So clearly, not supporting open formats is what they want to do. Then and still now.

It was simply out of date for too long and no resources to keep them updated.

[audiosabre]

Great, now UVI can also sell toys to teenagers. I'm all for teenagers having very way moar nice toys.

[jamcat]

I did a Google Trends comparison, too, comparing the professional DAWs (plus Bitwig as a baseline for zero) over the past 10 years.

Studio One is the only DAW that isn't LOSING interest over time. It actually shows some slight growth over time, and has tied or surpassed the others.



https://trends.google.com/trends/explor ... ols,Bitwig

[Schnickschnack]

i hate people

[N__K]

UVI is an established company that has enough developers in its disposal. Why should they stop to produce VST/AU etc.?

I don’t know. Why did they remove VST support from their entire existing plugin line years ago?

It wasn’t for a lack of ability. They did it for some other self-interested reason. And they still have never brought VST support back to all those plugins. So clearly, not supporting open formats is what they want to do. Then and still now.

It was simply out of date for too long and no resources to keep them updated.

No resources?

So is the following incorrect:

People can blather on speculating about the number of users, wither anecdotally, or from other sources. The bottom line (hoho...) is that the company accounts show a pre tax profit of e29 million, with a ratio of total assets to total liabilities of about 1 (very healthy..) and current assets to liabilities (less than one year) of around 2 (not going to be wound up anytime soon due to creditors/insolvency etc.. )

Something they're doing is obviously working...

?