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- KVRian
- 873 posts since 9 Jun, 2020
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WatchTheGuitar WatchTheGuitar https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=440193
- KVRAF
- 13256 posts since 30 Apr, 2019
KW’s autobiography was named Acid Drops
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- KVRist
- 444 posts since 20 Oct, 2001 from belgium
We didn't even have audio it the years it was called FruityLoops.jamcat wrote: Mon Feb 13, 2023 8:25 pmI thought that’s what Fruity Loops was for. I distinctly recall that’s how most people were using it. Same for ACID.
FL was created to make loops (first even midi only) not to use them.
Jean-Marie Cannie @ Image-Line - FL Studio
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- KVRist
- 275 posts since 26 Mar, 2017
Surely the music-making humans have been responsible for the hits so far, not the app, as such?JMC wrote: Mon Feb 13, 2023 11:58 am [...] FL Studio is responsible for a bunch of #1 hits all over the world and featured almost every week in the socials of extremely popular artists, sending thousands of enthousiasts in our direction.
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There's no automatic hitmaking functionality yet in FL Studio. Although, if it ever gets to that point, adding "IL gets x% of royalties" to the EULA would make things interesting on a whole another level.
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- KVRist
- 275 posts since 26 Mar, 2017
That's reserved for future expansion. Right now, a "Belt and Road Compressor" might net a few extra bamboo leaves from the party officials.
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- Banned
- 1646 posts since 4 Aug, 2017
I have my original CD and unlock code. Unfortunately, it doesn't seem to work anymore using apps with bridging such as Reaper and FLS. I also have CDs of every piece of music (and other) software I bought going back to the early 90s.jamcat wrote: Mon Feb 13, 2023 7:21 pmSo we’re back to the issue really being that eventually they stopped being your personal backup service?tony10000 wrote: Mon Feb 13, 2023 1:21 pm I may have eventually upgraded to the 64-bit version if it was available. But it is not...and that option is no longer available.
If you had kept your own backups, would you still not be able to use it?
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- Pick Me Pick me!
- 10234 posts since 12 Mar, 2002 from a state of confusion
If comparing Fruity Loops against Fruity Loops, It is clear that Fruity Loops is the superior choice. That's because there is more Fruity deliciousness in the Fruity Loops than there is in Fruity Loops.
- KVRAF
- 2469 posts since 25 Sep, 2014 from Specific Northwest
That Amazon one-click buying option is dangerous.
I started on Logic 5 with a PowerBook G4 550Mhz. I now have a MacBook Air M1 and it's ~165x faster! So, why is my music not proportionally better? 
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- KVRist
- 444 posts since 20 Oct, 2001 from belgium
Of course but a lot of our Power Users have told us that it was the ease of use and the fact that it made noise, out of the box, convinced them they could actually make music. Something that was impossible in classic, linear DAWs that expected you to just record and edit that recording.N__K wrote: Mon Feb 13, 2023 9:19 pm Surely the music-making humans have been responsible for the hits so far, not the app, as such?
When we started we were made fun of because FL contained (admittingly low quality due to the filesize) samples and demo songs as that was absolutely not done at the time.
The same thing for our dark look in times when Logic and Cubase looked like a spreadsheet.
Just check out a typical DAW now ...
Jean-Marie Cannie @ Image-Line - FL Studio
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WatchTheGuitar WatchTheGuitar https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=440193
- KVRAF
- 13256 posts since 30 Apr, 2019
Let he who is without gin cast the first stone
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- KVRAF
- 5913 posts since 25 Jan, 2007
There it is. My own guess is most of the perplexed and disbelieving people on KVR are over 50. As am I, but at least I know I’m old and out of touch.JMC wrote: Mon Feb 13, 2023 11:58 am [*]Our own Facebook channel has 850.000 subs
[*]Our own YouTube channel has 600.000 subs
[*]The #FLStudio tag has 3 billion views on Tiktok.
[*]FL Studio is responsible for a bunch of #1 hits all over the world and featured almost every week in the socials of extremely popular artists, sending thousands of enthousiasts in our direction.
[*]millions of new/potential customers (most of which never saw a mixer desk up close) enter the bottom of the market evey year so we don't need to milk the few people that believed in us and paid for the software.
http://www.guyrowland.co.uk
http://www.sound-on-screen.com
W11, Ryzen 7900, 64gb RAM, RME Babyface, 1050ti, PT 2024 Ultimate, Cubase Pro 14
Macbook Air M2 OSX 10.15
http://www.sound-on-screen.com
W11, Ryzen 7900, 64gb RAM, RME Babyface, 1050ti, PT 2024 Ultimate, Cubase Pro 14
Macbook Air M2 OSX 10.15
- KVRAF
- 11363 posts since 3 Feb, 2003 from Finland, Espoo
I don't think Logic Pro is seen by Apple to be a huge money maker. It's just "added value" to the Mac (and boy is it amazing value!! One of the best "bang for your buck" DAWs out there today, with absolutely amazing internal effects and synthesizers!).martinjuenke wrote: Mon Feb 13, 2023 7:21 amThere's no subscription for Logic Pro.bmanic wrote: Mon Feb 13, 2023 1:16 am
Why people went for the subscription model is simply greed. Plain and simple. Massive profits to be made if you manage to "lock-in" people into a system. Just look at Apple. That's their main business model.
... and no paid for upgrades for 10 (?) years...
"Wisdom is wisdom, regardless of the idiot who said it." -an idiot
"They don't ban hate speech; they ban speech they hate." -an oracle
"They don't ban hate speech; they ban speech they hate." -an oracle
- KVRAF
- 8037 posts since 28 Dec, 2015 from Atlantis Island
You can bet on this. Old grumpy men who whine because the (music-) world now belongs to other, younger, fresher people. All these youngsters do not play according to our rules and we are pi$$ed.noiseboyuk wrote: Mon Feb 13, 2023 9:48 pm My own guess is most of the perplexed and disbelieving people on KVR are over 50.
https://sonograyn.bandcamp.com/music Experimental Ambient
https://martinjuenke.bandcamp.com/music Alternative Instrumental
https://martinjuenke.bandcamp.com/music Alternative Instrumental
- KVRAF
- 11363 posts since 3 Feb, 2003 from Finland, Espoo
More than a decade ago some sales figures of FL Studio were leaked or casually mentioned on various forums (don't remember the exact details, sorry!) and I was shocked at just how many copies were sold. Then again, I shouldn't have been as a lot of people around me and a bunch of my friends have all been using FL studio since it's early versions.noiseboyuk wrote: Mon Feb 13, 2023 9:48 pmThere it is. My own guess is most of the perplexed and disbelieving people on KVR are over 50. As am I, but at least I know I’m old and out of touch.JMC wrote: Mon Feb 13, 2023 11:58 am [*]Our own Facebook channel has 850.000 subs
[*]Our own YouTube channel has 600.000 subs
[*]The #FLStudio tag has 3 billion views on Tiktok.
[*]FL Studio is responsible for a bunch of #1 hits all over the world and featured almost every week in the socials of extremely popular artists, sending thousands of enthousiasts in our direction.
[*]millions of new/potential customers (most of which never saw a mixer desk up close) enter the bottom of the market evey year so we don't need to milk the few people that believed in us and paid for the software.
It's still one of the most commonly asked about software among my students as well. Has been forever. Now I can finally start recommending it wholeheartedly for them even for basic recording tasks as they _finally_ added proper audio editing in the timeline. Proper fades and cross fades! It only took 20 years!
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"Wisdom is wisdom, regardless of the idiot who said it." -an idiot
"They don't ban hate speech; they ban speech they hate." -an oracle
"They don't ban hate speech; they ban speech they hate." -an oracle
- KVRAF
- 8037 posts since 28 Dec, 2015 from Atlantis Island
Absolutelybmanic wrote: Mon Feb 13, 2023 9:58 pm Logic Pro ... boy is it amazing value!! One of the best "bang for your buck" DAWs out there today, with absolutely amazing internal effects and synthesizers!
https://sonograyn.bandcamp.com/music Experimental Ambient
https://martinjuenke.bandcamp.com/music Alternative Instrumental
https://martinjuenke.bandcamp.com/music Alternative Instrumental
