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Examigan · Post by **Examigan** » Thu Mar 23, 2023 10:43 am

Does Zenology Pro ever go on sale? I know it's not one of the available selections for the Play4Life deals. Also I don't want the collection I mentioned about earlier as it's just too expensive for me.

PAK · Post by **PAK** » Thu Mar 23, 2023 11:25 am

Examigan wrote: ↑Thu Mar 23, 2023 10:43 am Does Zenology Pro ever go on sale? I know it's not one of the available selections for the Play4Life deals. Also I don't want the collection I mentioned about earlier as it's just too expensive for me.

It doesn't. The $500 bundle does come with a year of Ultimate membership, though I think it's for new subs only. The only other way to get any sort of deal is to look for any retailers (EG Sweetwater) who resell Roland Cloud. Sometimes you might be able to use their own discount offers towards a purchase.

N 4 LIFE · Post by **N 4 LIFE** » Thu Mar 23, 2023 1:56 pm

kmonkey wrote: ↑Wed Mar 22, 2023 11:39 pm Good tip on getting those banks.

I have a question. Excuse my ignorance, I am just trying out Zenology 2.

Is there a multi-out VST3 version? Say I load a drum kit and want to have at least 6 channels with separate outs into my DAW. Possible or not?

I'm looking at a Zen drum kit in edit mode for you right now. The way it looks to me is that there are just output modes: dry and MFX (multifx). I'm pretty sure at first glance that the MFX just get summed to the main outs along with the dry output.
You may have to do this the way we did it back in the day....pan the kick to the left channel, snare to the right, record those two soloed. then hi hats to the left, cymbals to the right, etc. You lose the stereo imaging but that's how we used to do it back in the day.
It seems to be a more modern way now to just mix all your drums inside the VST and record just the kick and snare individually, everything else in a stereo pair. If you want to change things, go back and modify them in the VST. There are a lot of ways to do this and none of them works as well as just having individual outputs for each drum as far as I can see right now.

Atlatnesiti · Post by **Atlatnesiti** » Thu Mar 23, 2023 4:21 pm

EnochLight wrote: ↑Thu Mar 23, 2023 6:17 am
Septic Underground wrote: ↑Thu Mar 23, 2023 12:06 am But Roland doesn't seem to get the clues from the public. They are a bit stubborn in a lot of ways.
It literally took Propellerhead making ReBirth - emulating the Roland TB-303, 808, and 909, to make Roland realize there's money to be made on emulating their own hardware. They didn't even have a serious effort for the first part of the 2000's, and arguably all the way up to the release of their ACB emulations. So yeah - they definitely are "slow" to react to what the public consumer and pro musicians alike actually want!

#Still_Waiting_for_ACB_JX-8P

Still using Rebirth on my iPad Pro on daily basis

Shame that Roland banned Propellerheads for distributing it

N 4 LIFE · Post by **N 4 LIFE** » Thu Mar 23, 2023 4:37 pm

Yeah, I want my JX8P far more than I want my MTV!

kmonkey · Post by **kmonkey** » Thu Mar 23, 2023 9:36 pm

N 4 LIFE wrote: ↑Thu Mar 23, 2023 1:56 pm
kmonkey wrote: ↑Wed Mar 22, 2023 11:39 pm Good tip on getting those banks.

I have a question. Excuse my ignorance, I am just trying out Zenology 2.

Is there a multi-out VST3 version? Say I load a drum kit and want to have at least 6 channels with separate outs into my DAW. Possible or not?
I'm looking at a Zen drum kit in edit mode for you right now. The way it looks to me is that there are just output modes: dry and MFX (multifx). I'm pretty sure at first glance that the MFX just get summed to the main outs along with the dry output.
You may have to do this the way we did it back in the day....pan the kick to the left channel, snare to the right, record those two soloed. then hi hats to the left, cymbals to the right, etc. You lose the stereo imaging but that's how we used to do it back in the day.
It seems to be a more modern way now to just mix all your drums inside the VST and record just the kick and snare individually, everything else in a stereo pair. If you want to change things, go back and modify them in the VST. There are a lot of ways to do this and none of them works as well as just having individual outputs for each drum as far as I can see right now.

THX

perpetual3 · Post by **perpetual3** » Fri Mar 24, 2023 4:29 am

Well hopefully they don’t fix that loophole.

Septic Underground wrote: ↑Wed Mar 22, 2023 10:30 pm
PAK wrote: ↑Wed Mar 22, 2023 3:11 pm Yes, Zenology Pro Analog Icons. Still doesn't include the JD-800 though (which is an extra $149). The base sub also includes everything but those Zenology synth models. So you get the EXZ expansions and most of their Zenology preset content for $30/yr.

Since it'd take 15+ years, of base level membership, to pay for those lifetime keys, it's a rare scenario where their rental offering potentially makes more sense, provided they keep the base membership cost low.

So, if someone wants the most Zenology sounds and presets for the money, the best value path is currently to buy a Zenology Pro lifetime key and then purchase the base Cloud $30/yr Membership..
No, buy a zenology lifetimekey. And a month of ultimate trial/sub.Then you download all the presets. And stop the month sub/trial. Backup the right directory on your harddisk and then you have them all, except for the analog icons stuff (which is not really great, the value is in the roland legacy presets)You won get anymore presets when the trial/sub is stopped.

digitalbilly · Post by **digitalbilly** » Sun Apr 02, 2023 10:28 pm

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Looks like concerto and discontinued downloads are no longer on Roland Cloud V3 if anyone here missed the opportunity to download the discontinued 40GB Roland Concerto instruments here they are!!! https://archive.org/download/roland...u ... ve.torrent (https://archive.org/download/roland...ument-collection-discontinued_archive.torrent)
If you don't have Concerto installed it is included in this package
https://www.filefactory.com/file/5vpy0b ... 1.6.CE.rar (https://www.filefactory.com/file/5vpy0bihvf2i/Roland.SRX.Series.Bundle.2021.6.CE.rar)

N 4 LIFE · Post by **N 4 LIFE** » Tue Apr 04, 2023 8:37 pm

What I hate about the new RC is the constant pushing for ZenBeats. I don't know anyone who uses it. Why try to compete with the MPC? Also, some of the sample libraries just suck. Haven't found any way to delete those. Does anyone know how? Would also like to delete some entire Zenology preset banks but haven't been able to figure that out yet either.
The earlier preset banks are still lower in volume than the new stuff. New stuff sounds louder and fuller.

Septic Underground · Post by **Septic Underground** » Tue Apr 04, 2023 11:03 pm

^^^
/library/application support/roland cloud/zenology

then you see the preset banks

N 4 LIFE · Post by **N 4 LIFE** » Wed Apr 05, 2023 8:29 pm

Septic Underground wrote: ↑Tue Apr 04, 2023 11:03 pm ^^^
/library/application support/roland cloud/zenology

then you see the preset banks

thanks!

maximoog · Post by **maximoog** » Thu Apr 06, 2023 3:08 am

Hello,

I have a problem with the D-50 plugin.

After a new installation of Windows 11 on my new SSD, the factory presets 1 Preset.bin - 6 Preset.bin are not installed with the D-50. I backed up the ProgramData/Roland Cloud folder before reinstalling.

If I now copy the saved Presets 1 Preset.bin - 6 Preset.bin to the new system and start the D-50, the files Presets 1 Preset.bin - 6 Preset.bin are renamed to Presets 1 Preset.bak - 6 Preset.bak.

Only when I set the files to read-only do the presets work again. That can't be right somehow, can it? The additional banks that I can download from the cloud work without problems.

N 4 LIFE · Post by **N 4 LIFE** » Thu Apr 06, 2023 8:40 pm

Maxi: there are still bugs in the system. mine sometimes vary from day to day. i guess you could try roland support at some point...

maximoog · Post by **maximoog** » Fri Apr 07, 2023 12:20 am

N 4 LIFE wrote: ↑Thu Apr 06, 2023 8:40 pm Maxi: there are still bugs in the system. mine sometimes vary from day to day. i guess you could try roland support at some point...

Thank you, I will do that.

Septic Underground · Post by **Septic Underground** » Fri Apr 07, 2023 12:51 am

maximoog wrote: ↑Thu Apr 06, 2023 3:08 am Hello,

I have a problem with the D-50 plugin.

After a new installation of Windows 11 on my new SSD, the factory presets 1 Preset.bin - 6 Preset.bin are not installed with the D-50. I backed up the ProgramData/Roland Cloud folder before reinstalling.

If I now copy the saved Presets 1 Preset.bin - 6 Preset.bin to the new system and start the D-50, the files Presets 1 Preset.bin - 6 Preset.bin are renamed to Presets 1 Preset.bak - 6 Preset.bak.

Only when I set the files to read-only do the presets work again. That can't be right somehow, can it? The additional banks that I can download from the cloud work without problems.

Delete all banks, or back up them. Reinstall D50, open it first (it then install the factory banks) and then add 3rd party / addon banks.