Modular software options?
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- KVRAF
- 2689 posts since 23 Jun, 2006 from Hungary
i'm not a modular fan, so i've got rid of ace and bazille. I still have reaktor and vcv pro.
In reaktor, there are some cool things, but it just mimics modular stuff and the gui is not resizable. Toybox have some crazy modules for reaktor , for example in their synth pack, there's a piano roll. But VCV is THE real modular stuff, though its hard to find the proper blocks to your needs from the great pile of available free and payware modules.
I mainly try to use vcv and reaktor to modulate/drive another plugin instruments in the DAW.
Imho there's no use building instruments in these modulars, because you can't build a Sylenth or a Serum. So I try to use my modular softwares for other purposes like fx and modulation...
In reaktor, there are some cool things, but it just mimics modular stuff and the gui is not resizable. Toybox have some crazy modules for reaktor , for example in their synth pack, there's a piano roll. But VCV is THE real modular stuff, though its hard to find the proper blocks to your needs from the great pile of available free and payware modules.
I mainly try to use vcv and reaktor to modulate/drive another plugin instruments in the DAW.
Imho there's no use building instruments in these modulars, because you can't build a Sylenth or a Serum. So I try to use my modular softwares for other purposes like fx and modulation...
Youtube channel: https://youtube.com/@SoftSynthPortal
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- addled muppet weed
- 107612 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass
in reaktor you could make something similar to sylenth or possibly serum(i don't know it so don't say for certain).dune_rave wrote: ↑Tue Oct 04, 2022 4:28 am i'm not a modular fan, so i've got rid of ace and bazille. I still have reaktor and vcv pro.
In reaktor, there are some cool things, but it just mimics modular stuff and the gui is not resizable. Toybox have some crazy modules for reaktor , for example in their synth pack, there's a piano roll. But VCV is THE real modular stuff, though its hard to find the proper blocks to your needs from the great pile of available free and payware modules.
I mainly try to use vcv and reaktor to modulate/drive another plugin instruments in the DAW.
Imho there's no use building instruments in these modulars, because you can't build a Sylenth or a Serum. So I try to use my modular softwares for other purposes like fx and modulation...
look in the user library, or even the factory synths, there are many standard type of synths
reaktor blocks you indeed cannot make them so easy, better for monosynths really (although i believe toybox have done some poly blocks?)
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- KVRAF
- 2689 posts since 23 Jun, 2006 from Hungary
I really tried to like Reaktor, also tried instruments / blocks /racks from its user library.vurt wrote: ↑Wed Oct 05, 2022 6:29 pmin reaktor you could make something similar to sylenth or possibly serum(i don't know it so don't say for certain).dune_rave wrote: ↑Tue Oct 04, 2022 4:28 am i'm not a modular fan, so i've got rid of ace and bazille. I still have reaktor and vcv pro.
In reaktor, there are some cool things, but it just mimics modular stuff and the gui is not resizable. Toybox have some crazy modules for reaktor , for example in their synth pack, there's a piano roll. But VCV is THE real modular stuff, though its hard to find the proper blocks to your needs from the great pile of available free and payware modules.
I mainly try to use vcv and reaktor to modulate/drive another plugin instruments in the DAW.
Imho there's no use building instruments in these modulars, because you can't build a Sylenth or a Serum. So I try to use my modular softwares for other purposes like fx and modulation...
look in the user library, or even the factory synths, there are many standard type of synths
reaktor blocks you indeed cannot make them so easy, better for monosynths really (although i believe toybox have done some poly blocks?)
I'm that kind of person who don't want to build, rather play instruments. The Gui in Reaktor is dated, the help text is too small.
Some of its sound are superb, others not.
For me, professional vsti plugins with modern gui (like serum or sylenth) are a better choice. I could say Massive X too, but it lacks some features, and I think NI dont care about improving its synths, they just release it, then not really update it.
Its just my oppinion, but because of this, i rather use other synths, that come from other developers who mainly develop their synths full time.
Youtube channel: https://youtube.com/@SoftSynthPortal
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- KVRAF
- 11792 posts since 19 Jun, 2008 from Seattle
Lest we forget, KarmaFX Synth Modular ... (has MPE, for those who care)
I'm not a musician, but I've designed sounds that others use to make music. http://soundcloud.com/obsidiananvil
- KVRian
- 517 posts since 16 Jun, 2022
I use VCV rack2 stand alone and Cardinal in the DAW. I use a bit of reaktor but it's not as similar to euro rack.
Techno and other adjacent genres
Horse On The Third Floor : https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCyL394 ... n4RdaCYHjA
Horse On The Third Floor : https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCyL394 ... n4RdaCYHjA
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- KVRist
- 459 posts since 18 Feb, 2019
Anyone who wants to try out Voltage Modular should pick up this crazy cheap Ignite offer for $1! https://www.humblebundle.com/software/l ... k-software
It gives you 45 modules and over 250 presets to play with but then you can also grab the many free modules available from 3rd party developers and really get a feel for the platform with very little investment.
It gives you 45 modules and over 250 presets to play with but then you can also grab the many free modules available from 3rd party developers and really get a feel for the platform with very little investment.
- KVRian
- 517 posts since 16 Jun, 2022
How is the CPU usage compared to other cherry audio's product. I think their products are good in general but really CPU intensive on my machineGusGranite wrote: ↑Wed Apr 05, 2023 5:47 am Anyone who wants to try out Voltage Modular should pick up this crazy cheap Ignite offer for $1! https://www.humblebundle.com/software/l ... k-software
It gives you 45 modules and over 250 presets to play with but then you can also grab the many free modules available from 3rd party developers and really get a feel for the platform with very little investment.
Techno and other adjacent genres
Horse On The Third Floor : https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCyL394 ... n4RdaCYHjA
Horse On The Third Floor : https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCyL394 ... n4RdaCYHjA
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- KVRAF
- 4356 posts since 2 Jul, 2005
I would suggest trying something like pure data or Max/MSP to get a really good idea of how a digital modular system behaves deep down. If you really want to lean on the "euro rack on my computer" style of setups then they are all very capable and with the ability to have custom modules made I think it's more of a preference issue than anything. I use reaktor most of the time since I've had it for a million years now, but it's not necessarily "much better" than anything else. I'd go with the free vcv rack plugins if I was gonna get into this these days
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- KVRist
- 459 posts since 18 Feb, 2019
I think it depends on the modules you run. I don't have a fierce ruling computer (yet) so I hit a wall after too many modules with Voltage Modular and VCV Rack. I just really like the workflow and usability in VM. Easy busing, macros, presets, cabinets, and some really interesting developers working on the platform. I still enjoy jumping back into VCV as well. Especially with some of the crazy patches that get shared on Patchstorage.HOTF wrote: ↑Wed Apr 05, 2023 5:26 pmHow is the CPU usage compared to other cherry audio's product. I think their products are good in general but really CPU intensive on my machineGusGranite wrote: ↑Wed Apr 05, 2023 5:47 am Anyone who wants to try out Voltage Modular should pick up this crazy cheap Ignite offer for $1! https://www.humblebundle.com/software/l ... k-software
It gives you 45 modules and over 250 presets to play with but then you can also grab the many free modules available from 3rd party developers and really get a feel for the platform with very little investment.
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- KVRAF
- 5871 posts since 27 Jul, 2001 from Tarpon Springs, Florida, USA
I love all modular environments whether a DAW, instrument or fx. I love the virtual cables especially if can see both the left and the right. I would love to see the cables light up when a signal is present. Extra love if multi-touch capable. But most of all I love it when the modular plugin can host other plugins. Yes I admit it, I’m in love with modular!!!
Got Unify and am looking forward working with it. Unify also has a modular environment called ComboBox which allows one to route audio and midi as desired. https://www.kvraudio.com/news/plugingur ... fect-50140
I am looking to see if some other plugin will do as well or better for my workflow. I am now looking in the current order of preference at:
Bidule https://web.archive.org/web/20170926075 ... ts/bidule/
BespokeSynth https://www.bespokesynth.com/
Loomer Architect https://www.loomer.co.uk/architect.htm
Mulab plugin with Mux,
FL Studio with Patcher
Element - https://kushview.net/
Freestyle https://www.newsonicarts.com/html/freestyle.php
Metaplugin https://ddmf.eu/metaplugin-chainer-vst- ... x-wrapper/
Got Unify and am looking forward working with it. Unify also has a modular environment called ComboBox which allows one to route audio and midi as desired. https://www.kvraudio.com/news/plugingur ... fect-50140
I am looking to see if some other plugin will do as well or better for my workflow. I am now looking in the current order of preference at:
Bidule https://web.archive.org/web/20170926075 ... ts/bidule/
BespokeSynth https://www.bespokesynth.com/
Loomer Architect https://www.loomer.co.uk/architect.htm
Mulab plugin with Mux,
FL Studio with Patcher
Element - https://kushview.net/
Freestyle https://www.newsonicarts.com/html/freestyle.php
Metaplugin https://ddmf.eu/metaplugin-chainer-vst- ... x-wrapper/
My Studio: viewtopic.php?f=4&t=7760&p=7777146#p7777146
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- KVRer
- 15 posts since 25 Jan, 2024
like said by Ah_Dziz try a more low end approach:
Pure Data is free, fast and more powerful than most others, but it is a (graphical) programming language, which affects the learning curve. but you can do anything with it. Max is the commercial version and more ready to go, but still needs some time to learn. for me personally it does not get more modular -- even with a hardware system
Pure Data is free, fast and more powerful than most others, but it is a (graphical) programming language, which affects the learning curve. but you can do anything with it. Max is the commercial version and more ready to go, but still needs some time to learn. for me personally it does not get more modular -- even with a hardware system
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- KVRer
- 1 posts since 1 Sep, 2013 from Poland
I am surprised no one mentioned Hyperion.
As much as I am in love with Bitwig Grid- I think it is by far the best, most user-friendly, eye-candy, etc.
It just does not sound lush to me. I wish it did but it does not. Perhaps there's something wrong with my hearing?
On the other hand Hyperion is just a beast! And it sounds great and lush! And Hyperion is constantly developed by Paul.
Yet, what I completely do not get it, it is nearly non-existent on this forum. Anyone knows why?
As much as I am in love with Bitwig Grid- I think it is by far the best, most user-friendly, eye-candy, etc.
It just does not sound lush to me. I wish it did but it does not. Perhaps there's something wrong with my hearing?
On the other hand Hyperion is just a beast! And it sounds great and lush! And Hyperion is constantly developed by Paul.
Yet, what I completely do not get it, it is nearly non-existent on this forum. Anyone knows why?
- KVRAF
- 15553 posts since 26 Jun, 2006 from San Francisco Bay Area
It’s not your hearing. The Grid doesn’t sound that great, and it definitely doesn’t do audio rate modulation well. That said, Hyperion doesn’t do it at all, at least not in the sense that you’d expect from a modular. I did pick up Hyperion when it was on sale for a really cheap price and I haven’t really dug into it that deeply It’s on my to-do list.pablo39 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 30, 2024 10:34 am I am surprised no one mentioned Hyperion.
As much as I am in love with Bitwig Grid- I think it is by far the best, most user-friendly, eye-candy, etc.
It just does not sound lush to me. I wish it did but it does not. Perhaps there's something wrong with my hearing?
On the other hand Hyperion is just a beast! And it sounds great and lush! And Hyperion is constantly developed by Paul.
Yet, what I completely do not get it, it is nearly non-existent on this forum. Anyone knows why?
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- KVRAF
- 11792 posts since 19 Jun, 2008 from Seattle
Voltage Modular does all of those things.Kalamata Kid wrote: ↑Thu Apr 06, 2023 3:37 am I love all modular environments whether a DAW, instrument or fx. I love the virtual cables especially if can see both the left and the right. I would love to see the cables light up when a signal is present. Extra love if multi-touch capable. But most of all I love it when the modular plugin can host other plugins. Yes I admit it, I’m in love with modular!!!
I'm not a musician, but I've designed sounds that others use to make music. http://soundcloud.com/obsidiananvil