Arturia releases LEXICON LX-24

[Fannon]

Just curious - how does it compare to Valhalla Vintage Verb? If I understand right, it's also (a bit more loosely) based on Lexicon verbs: viewtopic.php?p=6631096#p6631096

[vitocorleone123]

Just curious - how does it compare to Valhalla Vintage Verb? If I understand right, it's also (a bit more loosely) based on Lexicon verbs: viewtopic.php?p=6631096#p6631096

I think you answered your own question: one is a direct emulation, one has one or more modes inspired by Lexicon.

[Passante]

The preset "Atmos" emits constantly white noise sound. It stops when you select the 24bit converter. Surely this must be a bug?

There are 3 modes: 12, 24 and modern. The 12 mode is only a 12-bit converter and very noisy. That's what you're hearing. Just change modes.

Nah, it's definitely a bug as the problem occurs only when I load it as a send effect. If I put it as an insert there is no noise, the preset works correctly. This happens in Cubase.

[mholloway]

The preset "Atmos" emits constantly white noise sound. It stops when you select the 24bit converter. Surely this must be a bug?

There are 3 modes: 12, 24 and modern. The 12 mode is only a 12-bit converter and very noisy. That's what you're hearing. Just change modes.

Nah, it's definitely a bug as the problem occurs only when I load it as a send effect. If I put it as an insert there is no noise, the preset works correctly. This happens in Cubase.

It's not a bug. You're just wrong on this one, ok? Ok... And it's not like the plugin 'knows' when it's being used as a send vs. as an insert. The difference is the setting of the dry/wet knob...100% wet is LOUDER reverb setting, which = higher noise.

so look, try this: go to your Return channel. switch the mode from 12 to 24. does the noise stop? (Answer: Yes, it does stop, as expected).

I'll help you out: I just did this. when I switch it to 24, the noise stops entirely. This is not a bug. It's the 12 bit mode. You're not hearing it when using it as an insert because the wet isn't set to 100% when it's an insert. At 100% wet, the noise effect is louder. This is the intended behavior. Don't like it? Switch to 24bit mode (or Modern). Done.

[Passante]

The preset "Atmos" emits constantly white noise sound. It stops when you select the 24bit converter. Surely this must be a bug?

There are 3 modes: 12, 24 and modern. The 12 mode is only a 12-bit converter and very noisy. That's what you're hearing. Just change modes.

Nah, it's definitely a bug as the problem occurs only when I load it as a send effect. If I put it as an insert there is no noise, the preset works correctly. This happens in Cubase.

It's not a bug. You're just wrong on this one, ok? Ok... And it's not like the plugin 'knows' when it's being used as a send vs. as an insert. The difference is the setting of the dry/wet knob...100% wet is LOUDER reverb setting, which = higher noise.

so look, try this: go to your Return channel. switch the mode from 12 to 24. does the noise stop? (Answer: Yes, it does stop, as expected).

I'll help you out: I just did this. when I switch it to 24, the noise stops entirely. This is not a bug. It's the 12 bit mode. You're not hearing it when using it as an insert because the wet isn't set to 100% when it's an insert. At 100% wet, the noise effect is louder. This is the intended behavior. Don't like it? Switch to 24bit mode (or Modern). Done.

Ok, I see now, thanks. Though it is really loud. A preset I'll definitely avoid.

[mholloway]

The preset "Atmos" emits constantly white noise sound. It stops when you select the 24bit converter. Surely this must be a bug?

There are 3 modes: 12, 24 and modern. The 12 mode is only a 12-bit converter and very noisy. That's what you're hearing. Just change modes.

Nah, it's definitely a bug as the problem occurs only when I load it as a send effect. If I put it as an insert there is no noise, the preset works correctly. This happens in Cubase.

It's not a bug. You're just wrong on this one, ok? Ok... And it's not like the plugin 'knows' when it's being used as a send vs. as an insert. The difference is the setting of the dry/wet knob...100% wet is LOUDER reverb setting, which = higher noise.

so look, try this: go to your Return channel. switch the mode from 12 to 24. does the noise stop? (Answer: Yes, it does stop, as expected).

I'll help you out: I just did this. when I switch it to 24, the noise stops entirely. This is not a bug. It's the 12 bit mode. You're not hearing it when using it as an insert because the wet isn't set to 100% when it's an insert. At 100% wet, the noise effect is louder. This is the intended behavior. Don't like it? Switch to 24bit mode (or Modern). Done.

Ok, I see now, thanks. Though it is really loud. A preset I'll definitely avoid.

Why? I explained exactly what you need to do: switch the mode from 12 bit to 24 bit or Modern. That's it. That preset, any preset...

[bluesawsq]

The preset "Atmos" emits constantly white noise sound. It stops when you select the 24bit converter. Surely this must be a bug?

There are 3 modes: 12, 24 and modern. The 12 mode is only a 12-bit converter and very noisy. That's what you're hearing. Just change modes.

Nah, it's definitely a bug as the problem occurs only when I load it as a send effect. If I put it as an insert there is no noise, the preset works correctly. This happens in Cubase.

It's not a bug. You're just wrong on this one, ok? Ok... And it's not like the plugin 'knows' when it's being used as a send vs. as an insert. The difference is the setting of the dry/wet knob...100% wet is LOUDER reverb setting, which = higher noise.

so look, try this: go to your Return channel. switch the mode from 12 to 24. does the noise stop? (Answer: Yes, it does stop, as expected).

I'll help you out: I just did this. when I switch it to 24, the noise stops entirely. This is not a bug. It's the 12 bit mode. You're not hearing it when using it as an insert because the wet isn't set to 100% when it's an insert. At 100% wet, the noise effect is louder. This is the intended behavior. Don't like it? Switch to 24bit mode (or Modern). Done.

Ok, I see now, thanks. Though it is really loud. A preset I'll definitely avoid.

Why? I explained exactly what you need to do: switch the mode from 12 bit to 24 bit or Modern. That's it. That preset, any preset...

There is some strange problem causing the Arturia LX-24 to self-oscillate when using long decay times. The oscillation happens at very low frequency, about 0-3Hz. And the volume level of that self-oscillation is increasing by itself slowly. If you wait long enough, even without any input signal, the low frequency noise/wander will eventually shoot over 0dB.
Changing to 'Vintage 24' mode does not solve the problem. It just takes longer time for the problem to appear.

There is also a problem or bug in Modern mode. The Damping is not affecting the frequencies above ~12kHz.

[musicproducerdee]

I appreciate how your critique of the GUI went above and beyond to criticize the sound of the headphones shown on the desk on the GUI. That's really next level stuff!

For me it actually adds to the feeling that I now have the real thing, because I already have the real K240 headphones next to me.

which one you planning on using today?

[musicproducerdee]

would you guys think it's worth getting the whole FX Collection 3 for $129 (with LX-24) as a bundle?
I currently use stock plugins (Bitwig). The FX Collection plugins look like fun to use, and I like the fact that no iLok security is needed. I was considering the SSL plugins or maybe a couple SoundToys plugins that are on sale right now, but seems almost not worth it, considering I'm getting a whole suite of plugins from Arturia for $129. And yes, I'll definitely use them if I have them. I haven't tried all of them, so unsure about the load times, can someone comment on that and the CPU usage? Are they all as intensive as this LX-24 or what?
Thoughts?

[jens]

The FX Collection is an absolute steal @129bucks - that's about 4 per plugin and all of them are great. CPU useage is certainly okay.

[LoveEnigma18]

For $129, it is a no-brainer deal for some great effects. However, FX Collection 4 is around the corner, probably June, so could wait for that and there is usually an intro offer from Arturia. Otherwise, you can buy FX Collection 3 now and upgrade later for $69 or so (guesstimated).

The load times are fine for me. Having the Arturia "resources" folder on an SSD definitely helps, even for FX Collection installation. CPU usage may be a concern for some plugins.

The most important addition to FX Collection 4 will be Dist COLDFIRE (one of their best FX plugins to date), unless you don't like such plugins, which I don't think would be the case.

[martiu]

fragments and dist coldfire are their best plugins

[mixtur.se]

Wow!

I was hoping for Relab, but I’ll take Arturia.

This might sound insane: but are we sure it's not Relab?

We re-ordered what would be the release schedule due to what made sense "under the hood" to future proof a few things etc- so the next one out the door will be a bit of a surprise product/partnership - and then you'll see us catch up on the verbs we've talked about

Relab just responded to that thread saying they did not partner with Arturia.

[standalone]

So they put the AKG 240 Studio on the GUI, but then the AKG 240 MKII in their videos. Is this a secret message? Should ALL of us be worried?

[Lbdunequest]

So they put the AKG 240 Studio on the GUI, but then the AKG 240 MKII in their videos. Is this a secret message? Should ALL of us be worried?

So what? secret message of what?