Arturia releases LEXICON LX-24

[keyman_sam]

great, yet another reverb that I’m tempted to buy. YARTITTB?

Does anyone else find it an obvious oversight that most of these reverb plugins don’t have a ducking feature?

I love toraverb for this. The built in ducking is great, as a creative effect too. Such a shame most reverbs don’t do this.

[aMUSEd]

Yeah it does, in the dynamics section (see the tutorials)

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[Ah_Dziz]

I still like the NI reverb for this kind of thing. The demo didn't change my mind. It's just as good. Not really noticeably better at all.

Psst… this applies to almost everything around here.

I have noticed this over the years. Still... It's all I really have to say about a ton of things. I love this style of reverb but I'm fine with the NI jammy and if I need to go a different way I can do it with Valhalla.

Honestly I'm most excited about what seem to be "problems" with this new arturia plugin (infinite resonating, odd noise etc). If they're going to make a plugin that you can break then they should make that into a major feature set. That's why I love MTurboVerb. Still. I'm sure this thing is handy for plenty of folks. I just have a bit much when it comes to effects plugins so this would have to be pretty different to get me hyped up. I'm surprised I even demoed it.

[dumbledog]

Here is the straightforward 224 remote, where you just set the BASS and the MID in seconds, independently, and that's that:

For what it's worth, they had a livestream the other day where they explain this. I've never been in the same postal code as a 224 myself but apparently with the hardware controller it's common to want to up both the BASS and MID controls in tandem, pushing them both up or down to adjust overall decay, as one does. This is easy with physical controls but you can't really do so with a mouse -- you can only nudge BASS or MID. So they do the DECAY and OFFSET instead to compensate.

Perhaps instead they could have left the BASS and MID sliders and had a "link" toggle button at the bottom between the faders to retain the original behavior. Oh well.

[jamcat]

Yeah, a link button or holding shift is all they needed. I think it’s a major f up.

[SamDi]

Normally I don‘t feel attracted to the Lexicon emulations, they never clicked with me. I am happy with the Exponential Audio/Izotope stuff like Nimbus and R4. Though I would like to know, if anybody has the comparison: how does LX-24 compare to R4 (or even Symphony)? Is it in the same ballpark or is there a certain gap in quality?

[jamcat]

LX-24 smokes iZotope’s Exponential Audio plugins in the most important comparison:

It isn’t abandonware.

[DrGonzo]

This thing is very techno.

[jens]

Yeah, because it sounds more like a diffuse, filtered delay than a real reverb...

[DrGonzo]

Yeah sure! All good things that are good are good.

[bmanic]

Yeah, because it sounds more like a diffuse, filtered delay than a real reverb...

That is indeed it's strength, not being so diffuse. It's also one of it's weaknesses for sure. This is definitely not a desert island reverb plugin. It's more of a one trick pony but that trick is awesome and works in a lot of genres of music.

[audiouser720]

Yeah, because it sounds more like a diffuse, filtered delay than a real reverb...

That is indeed it's strength, not being so diffuse. It's also one of it's weaknesses for sure. This is definitely not a desert island reverb plugin. It's more of a one trick pony but that trick is awesome and works in a lot of genres of music.

What do you think of Relab’s 480 in general and also in terms of how it envelopes around the sound and melts into the mix comparing to the 224?

I am of course aware that they are 2 completely different things but you have spoken so highly about LX-24 in terms of how it sits in the mix. I wonder if Relab 480 has the same properties but perhaps more of a desert island reverb? I have always found the 224 more interesting on synths at least. I have an OTO BAM which I love and I think the 224 is closer to that sound than the 480.

[jamcat]

The Lexicon 224 was a good inexpensive, compact, artificial reverb for the early '80s, and as such, every studio had at least one. At 3 rack spaces and nearly $8,000 at a time when you could buy a new Honda for that, and the median household income in the US was just over $20,000, you wouldn't think of it as either compact or inexpensive, but compared to the EMT 250, which cost twice as much and looked like the transporter console on the starship Enterprise, it was indeed both.

The Lexicon 480 came out in the late '80s and was leaps and bounds more realistic, and even 1U smaller. The only reason why you would want a recreation of the Lexicon 224 is because you want the unmistakable sound of the early '80s, and no other reason. It is a 100% stylistic choice. It is not something you would reach for if you're looking for high quality or realism in any kind of contemporary sense.

[Lbdunequest]

The Lexicon 224 was a good inexpensive, compact, artificial reverb for the early '80s, and as such, every studio had at least one. At 3 rack spaces and nearly $8,000 at a time when you could buy a new Honda for that, and the median household income in the US was just over $20,000, you wouldn't think of it as either compact or inexpensive, but compared to the EMT 250, which cost twice as much and looked like the transporter console on the starship Enterprise, it was indeed both.

The Lexicon 480 came out in the late '80s and was leaps and bounds more realistic, and even 1U smaller. The only reason why you would want a recreation of the Lexicon 224 is because you want the unmistakable sound of the early '80s, and no other reason. It is a 100% stylistic choice. It is not something you would reach for if you're looking for high quality or realism in any kind of contemporary sense.

The only reason to reach out when you want 80s stylistic and no other reason? What BS.

Tell that to all those pop, edm, hard dance and other music producers who reach for Rc24, valhalla vintageverb and other lexicon emulations. You clearly are not producer yourself or just bad at your craft if you have such a pointview. Really lol

[jamcat]

RC24 and Valhalla VintageVerb sound nothing like a Lexicon 224, so there's that. But regardless, people choose such reverbs for an aesthetic, not for realism, that is for sure.

But when did KVR become a place with such shitty abusive people?