Soundtoys Superplate, new plate reverb for NAMM 2023
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vitocorleone123 vitocorleone123 https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=333504
- KVRAF
- 2495 posts since 30 Jun, 2014 from Pacific NW
How is auto-decay different from ducking the reverb tail? Just a fancy name?
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- KVRAF
- 1614 posts since 26 Jun, 2005
No, it´s actually working in a different way: by shortening the decay time, instead of "ducking" the reverb tail. You can determine, how short the decay time will be with the "Target" knob and can adjust the "recovery" time (how fast will it be back to the real decay time) with the "Recovery" knob.vitocorleone123 wrote: Wed May 24, 2023 4:52 am How is auto-decay different from ducking the reverb tail? Just a fancy name?
So, it´s definitely a unique approach in getting a cleaner signal in my opinion.
Here is a video where talked about with examples shown. It starts at 5:45
- KVRAF
- 11375 posts since 3 Feb, 2003 from Finland, Espoo
You running UVI in Insane mode? That's the only mode worth comparing because it's the only one that is dense enough to feel like a real plate (in my opinion).jens wrote: Tue May 23, 2023 7:59 pmNot here - here it's more like 4x, but only if modulation is enabled, which Sunset doesn't have in the first place. Otherwise it's more like 2x (or even less than that).bmanic wrote: Thu May 18, 2023 9:44 pm Well, UVI Plate is a completely different beast (sounds nothing like the others and is wholly unique) but it uses 6x the CPU of Sunset plate
But then again UVI Plate is - quite unlike the Sunset - true stereo, which basically kind of explains (most of anyway) the remaining difference. That just goes to show how extremely optimized UVI Plate really is.![]()
On my Mac M1 and Reaper, the difference in Activity monitor is a factor of 6x.
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- KVRAF
- 25026 posts since 12 Jul, 2003 from West Caprazumia
Yes, of course - the Insane mode is specifically what I was replying to. And that you get somewhat higher numbers on the M1 is no really a surprise, considering it does not support AVX. But like I said: turn modulation to zero and the CPU consumption should be roughly cut in half (at least here that's the case).
- KVRAF
- 25026 posts since 12 Jul, 2003 from West Caprazumia
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- KVRAF
- 1991 posts since 12 Mar, 2004
Ilok isn't optional
"We do still include the iLok software in the Soundtoys installer, since Activation Codes still use the iLok software for licensing."
Also you only get one activation if you don't use your ilok account, two with the account.
Duh
- KVRAF
- 11375 posts since 3 Feb, 2003 from Finland, Espoo
Ah yes, good point about AVX. Never thought of that.jens wrote: Wed May 24, 2023 7:53 am Yes, of course - the Insane mode is specifically what I was replying to. And that you get somewhat higher numbers on the M1 is no really a surprise, considering it does not support AVX. But like I said: turn modulation to zero and the CPU consumption should be roughly cut in half (at least here that's the case).
Yeah, I tried turning off modulation but it doesn't seem to do much of a difference here on this Mac. But yeah, anyhow, I'll still definitely be using UVI Plate as it's just so ridiculously good. It's still the king of "invisible" tiny ambience.
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- KVRAF
- 1818 posts since 10 Jul, 2018
Know of any audio demos of UVI Plate that are definitely using insane mode on vocals? Based on what I found on Youtube I passed on getting for $29 this month but now I'm wondering if I made a mistake. Didn't seem dense enough to me, but maybe they didn't have insane mode on. Thought I'd read that UVI doesn't allow trials because they want people to subscribe instead, but glancing at the UVI Plate product page there actually is a 15 day trial.bmanic wrote: Wed May 24, 2023 5:25 am You running UVI in Insane mode? That's the only mode worth comparing because it's the only one that is dense enough to feel like a real plate (in my opinion).
On my Mac M1 and Reaper, the difference in Activity monitor is a factor of 6x.
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- KVRAF
- 1818 posts since 10 Jul, 2018
Has anyone compared Super-plate with Acustica Silver B and Silver Volume L (with quality set to Perfection)? I'd assume it uses a lot less cpu but IDGAF. OTOH I'd guess Super-plate is better for fine-tuning the decay length, and I'm curious about how well decay ducking actually works vs traditional sidechain compression and how it sounds with infinite reverb (thanks for pointing out that the infinite reverb keeps receiving signal).
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- KVRAF
- 1818 posts since 10 Jul, 2018
Just glanced through the Youtube demos again, looks like they were just going through the presets none of which used insane mode. I'm going to have to demo this myself vs Super-plate and Acustica Silver L....Ou_Tis wrote: Wed May 24, 2023 5:42 pmKnow of any audio demos of UVI Plate that are definitely using insane mode on vocals? Based on what I found on Youtube I passed on getting for $29 this month but now I'm wondering if I made a mistake. Didn't seem dense enough to me, but maybe they didn't have insane mode on.bmanic wrote: Wed May 24, 2023 5:25 am You running UVI in Insane mode? That's the only mode worth comparing because it's the only one that is dense enough to feel like a real plate (in my opinion).
On my Mac M1 and Reaper, the difference in Activity monitor is a factor of 6x.
If Super-plate and IK Sunset Studios were tied I'd lean towards Super-plate for more versatility + I dislike IK and their plugins don't seem to be working properly in Bitwig anyway.
- KVRian
- 1166 posts since 24 Jul, 2008 from England
Has anyone else experienced a huge increase in CPU use since the V5.4 upgrade? Most instances have gone from using a few cycles to 35% CPU. It's actually insane and literally no projects that use Soundtoys will play anymore. They just grind to a halt. I've owned Soundtoys for years now. Never an issue until now.
The irony is the new SuperPlate plugin is the only one that's efficient. With identical settings to Little Plate it uses a third of the CPU.
What is going on? I'm bewildered. I'll see how Soundtoys support is, but right now I'm regretting upgrading.
Sigh. Good job guys, creating issues that didn't exist before.
Edit: An example of the insanity
MicroShift v5.3.8 - 2% CPU
MicroShift v5.4 - 34% CPU
That's 17 times the CPU use. Absolutely nuts.
The irony is the new SuperPlate plugin is the only one that's efficient. With identical settings to Little Plate it uses a third of the CPU.
What is going on? I'm bewildered. I'll see how Soundtoys support is, but right now I'm regretting upgrading.
Sigh. Good job guys, creating issues that didn't exist before.
Edit: An example of the insanity
MicroShift v5.3.8 - 2% CPU
MicroShift v5.4 - 34% CPU
That's 17 times the CPU use. Absolutely nuts.
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- KVRist
- 335 posts since 31 Jul, 2011 from London, UK
Released - Embrays Designs - 60 Presets - Echo and Plate
for Soundtoys EffectRack.
6 X (10 Presets each for DRUMS, GUITARS, KEYS, STRINGS, SYNTHS and VOCALS.)
Started Designing Presets for SuperPlate, but then quickly found that using EchoBoy as an Addition as Delay or Second Diffusion in Series notches the Overall Effect to an Amazing Level.
Perfect Combo for Massive Reverbs and Spacey Delays.
Get it for just $5 here - https://embrays.gumroad.com
Check the Video here -
for Soundtoys EffectRack.
6 X (10 Presets each for DRUMS, GUITARS, KEYS, STRINGS, SYNTHS and VOCALS.)
Started Designing Presets for SuperPlate, but then quickly found that using EchoBoy as an Addition as Delay or Second Diffusion in Series notches the Overall Effect to an Amazing Level.
Perfect Combo for Massive Reverbs and Spacey Delays.
Get it for just $5 here - https://embrays.gumroad.com
Check the Video here -
B Ray - Embrays - RAY
Valhalla Delay - 120 Presets, FabFilter Timeless 3 - 105 Presets XY, Soundtoys Effectrack 150+ Presets, PA Unfiltered Audio BYOME - 100 Presets, Venomode Phrasebox - 100 Presets - https://gumroad.com/embrays
Valhalla Delay - 120 Presets, FabFilter Timeless 3 - 105 Presets XY, Soundtoys Effectrack 150+ Presets, PA Unfiltered Audio BYOME - 100 Presets, Venomode Phrasebox - 100 Presets - https://gumroad.com/embrays
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- KVRian
- 997 posts since 31 Oct, 2020
Currently on sale
