HY Slicer 2 Rumors

[Dirtgrain]

I'm talking about the 4 banks of 8 patterns. No problem calling it a sampler when no midi note enters? It was not presented as a simple sound generator (like a reaktor or m4l patch).
For any sampler vst slicer you can either trigger a slice or a midi loop (step sequence) like Geist 2, Nerve, Transfuser 2, Renoise Redux, LoopMix, Ultraloop.
Even percussive synthesizers like tremor or microtonic have sound and pattern triggering.

This is how it is presented:

This is a sampler type plugin.

You can load 8 different audio samples. And they will be chopped into audio slices.

You can also assign sliced samples to individual grid lanes. Each sampler track also has 16 separate grid lanes.

You will be able to assign up to 16 different slices per track.

Each sampler unit is driven by the internal grid sequencer.

8 slicer units
5 sampler tracks
Built-in grid sequencer for triggering sliced samples
Step FX (4 multi-effect units)
Master FX (EQ, Compressor, Clipper)
Sample browser

(Source)

[Grodada]

yes it is presented as a sampler and a sequencer hands at no time as a simple on off type sound generator, this does not in any way detract from the common sense of my criticism, I understand that you wanted the error at him but it is useless. everyone can understand the uselessness of a vst instrument without control in a daw, only resampling is possible (in renoise it doesn't even work).

[neverbefore]

I'm talking about the 4 banks of 8 patterns. No problem calling it a sampler when no midi note enters? It was not presented as a simple sound generator (like a reaktor or m4l patch).
For any sampler vst slicer you can either trigger a slice or a midi loop (step sequence) like Geist 2, Nerve, Transfuser 2, Renoise Redux, LoopMix, Ultraloop.
Even percussive synthesizers like tremor or microtonic have sound and pattern triggering.

This is how it is presented:

This is a sampler type plugin.

You can load 8 different audio samples. And they will be chopped into audio slices.

You can also assign sliced samples to individual grid lanes. Each sampler track also has 16 separate grid lanes.

You will be able to assign up to 16 different slices per track.

Each sampler unit is driven by the internal grid sequencer.

8 slicer units
5 sampler tracks
Built-in grid sequencer for triggering sliced samples
Step FX (4 multi-effect units)
Master FX (EQ, Compressor, Clipper)
Sample browser

(Source)

It is described as a sampler type plugin - and it is. It is not described as a sampling plugin, nor a sampler, nor described as a sequencer. Even more it is available as a demo so the actual device itself can be experienced - no description can be as accurate as the device itself.
I asked Tadashi if he could add individual outs and he said he will try. That will make it much more useful for me but even as is I find it very useful and have bought it.

[Grodada]

let's make things clear, it is common and implicit to think that a vst instrument must be controllable in a daw, the purchase can be made without a demo directly from the retailers (plugin shop in my case); My criticism and this remains only a well-heard opinion has the same value as any other user, neither more nor less.
Just this coercion of several kvr members to limit any constraining opinion to a simple well-founded and relevant remark for any other interested potential of the said product is both childish and dishonest.

[Dirtgrain]

Emphasis added:

Just this coercion of several kvr members to limit any constraining opinion to a simple well-founded and relevant remark for any other interested potential of the said product is both childish and dishonest.

You started out so mature and reasonable?

Emphasis added:

this topic is crazy, almost all the speakers are in denial, a sampler without triggering a sample or 32 sequences, that's not called defending a developer but just denying reality.

Maybe you just suck at tone. Maybe talking/writing in extremes is what you considered mature and grounded. That said, peace.

[Grodada]

yes indeed as an adult not to deny the obvious.

[Grodada]

what's extrem is what's in your head.

[PTV]

Ok, now that I found that *you can* automate the patterns it's perfect for me, personally I don't need to trigger the samples with MIDI, there are many others slicers that can do it but can't do what HY-Slicer is doing
Multiple outputs would be nice, though.

[Schnickschnack]

Ok, now that I found that *you can* automate the patterns it's perfect for me, personally I don't need to trigger the samples with MIDI, there are many others slicers that can do it but can't do what HY-Slicer is doing
Multiple outputs would be nice, though.

When you have made a beat with slicer, do you resample it to audio? Or do you just let hy-slicer2 open and loop your beat?

I still don't really get how to implement it to my workflow, since it seems that I can't drag the sliced beats to my DAW?

I have checked some videos, but found nothing about this and I will try it out soon myself, but maybe you have some words for me to have a vague idea how to use that tool efficiently?

What I am wondering concretely:
How do I get the beat that I made out of different slices + fx in HY-Slicer2 to my DAW so I can arrange it as I like.

[Grodada]

now that I know that for ptv it's ok it absolutely does not change the fact that an uncontrollable vsti in a midi track and therefore not playable has little musical meaning.

[Dirtgrain]

We heard you twice the first time.

[Dirtgrain]

What I am wondering concretely:
How do I get the beat that I made out of different slices + fx in HY-Slicer2 to my DAW so I can arrange it as I like.

You don't, at this point. You arrange it in the plug-in. Not sure if there is intention from the developer to add such features--export MIDI from the sequencer, have it play back per MIDI in the track.

[neverbefore]

What I am wondering concretely:
How do I get the beat that I made out of different slices + fx in HY-Slicer2 to my DAW so I can arrange it as I like.

You don't, at this point. You arrange it in the plug-in. Not sure if there is intention from the developer to add such features--export MIDI from the sequencer, have it play back per MIDI in the track.

I dont think this plugin is that type of slicer - which is fine by me. But for those who do want that type of slicer then there are plenty of options eg looperator
HY-Slicer2 is going to have to be rendered out in your DAW if you want to play with arranging. Or map the patterns to a pad controller maybe if you want - I can do that in Reaper so presumably you could in other DAWs but is a bit of a hassle

[PTV]

When you have made a beat with slicer, do you resample it to audio? Or do you just let hy-slicer2 open and loop your beat?

I still don't really get how to implement it to my workflow, since it seems that I can't drag the sliced beats to my DAW?

I have checked some videos, but found nothing about this and I will try it out soon myself, but maybe you have some words for me to have a vague idea how to use that tool efficiently?

What I am wondering concretely:
How do I get the beat that I made out of different slices + fx in HY-Slicer2 to my DAW so I can arrange it as I like.

Personally what I do is let HY-Slicer loop my beat and then use host automation to arrange the patterns, automate volumes etc

[PTV]

now that I know that for ptv it's ok it absolutely does not change the fact that an uncontrollable vsti in a midi track and therefore not playable has little musical meaning.

To you. This plugin is not useful for you, obviously. And it is controllable in a MIDI track using automation - you can automate almost anything, including arranging the patterns, but again - to each is own. For me it's useful