I'm waiting for smileys and other emojis support;)syntonica wrote: Mon Jun 19, 2023 1:53 pmI think all the modern file systems accept UTF-8 now and you can just avoid the punctuation that has meaning in your file system (...)mutools wrote: Mon Jun 19, 2023 11:36 am That said i forgot which system could have an issue with carets in folder/file names.
Anyone remembers?
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Yes, we need pr0n names with googly eyes and eggplants now!robert_p wrote: Mon Jun 19, 2023 2:30 pmI'm waiting for smileys and other emojis support;)syntonica wrote: Mon Jun 19, 2023 1:53 pmI think all the modern file systems accept UTF-8 now and you can just avoid the punctuation that has meaning in your file system (...)mutools wrote: Mon Jun 19, 2023 11:36 am That said i forgot which system could have an issue with carets in folder/file names.
Anyone remembers?
APFS allows it, NTFS allows UTF-16 (weirdos) and EXT4 allows any byte except null, although I think it displays as ASCII still (I'm not a Linux nerd).
I started on Logic 5 with a PowerBook G4 550Mhz. I now have a MacBook Air M1 and it's ~165x faster! So, why is my music not proportionally better? 
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How would renaming then work in the database ? it will get an NA error as the program wouldn't find them. If it was changed by PG Music it would not be backward compatible.Michael L wrote: Mon Jun 19, 2023 12:45 pmFind & Replace ^ with "sub styles" and it will be more #%@$! meaningful.crossovercable wrote: Mon Jun 19, 2023 6:48 amThe carets in the names are to say the drums have sub styles:
The browser you are using seems to lets you type ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ all day long, no matter what browser you use.
I remember this issue with RapidComposer over in the Musicdevelopments Beta/Development KVR forum and it was fixed in the next release along with so many other features and ideas suggested being implemented in a short time.
No one their seemed to argue anything it was all fixed or implemented that's how it develop and went ahead.
You are looking through the eyes of protectionism, defending what you love rather than trying to make it better with constructive criticism, that's how things grow and develop into something better. If there is an issue you don't cover it up and defend it, you work out how it can be fixed.
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^ are illegal in Windows that still use FAT -- developed in 1977 for MS-DOS, replaced by NTFS with Windows XP, but still used in some flash drives. Windows has a command-line tool to convert a FAT file system into NTFS: https://windowsloop.com/how-to-convert- ... data-loss/syntonica wrote: Mon Jun 19, 2023 2:49 pmYes, we need pr0n names with googly eyes and eggplants now!robert_p wrote: Mon Jun 19, 2023 2:30 pmI'm waiting for smileys and other emojis support;)syntonica wrote: Mon Jun 19, 2023 1:53 pmI think all the modern file systems accept UTF-8 now and you can just avoid the punctuation that has meaning in your file system (...)mutools wrote: Mon Jun 19, 2023 11:36 am That said i forgot which system could have an issue with carets in folder/file names.
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APFS allows it, NTFS allows UTF-16 (weirdos) and EXT4 allows any byte except null, although I think it displays as ASCII still (I'm not a Linux nerd).
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Do you have a reference for that?
I assume there must have been a good reason that i added the caret to the list of invalid characters for file names, but i can't retrieve that reason anymore.
If there is no solid reason for the caret to be regarded as an invalid file name character, then it's logical that it should be removed from MuLab's invalid file name character list.
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You don't use FAT anymore. These ^ work on Mac also.


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A 2014 reference, for older systems:
https://kb.acronis.com/content/39790
A history of the FAT system and its variants, eg FAT32:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File_Allo ... te_note-12
The current Windows doc does not specify ^ as invalid:
https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windo ... ing-a-file
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If I have a project that's 85bpm and I want to add a source stereo or stems drum track and edit the sections where I want a fill or ending etc.. and the source drum track is 75bpm you need to be able to tell MuLab the bpm of the files so it will adjust to the project tempo. It should show the stereo track as a stereo waveform (maybe there is an option for this that I missed ?).
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If I try add a colon to the filename:


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Thx Michael.Michael L wrote: Tue Jun 20, 2023 12:00 am A 2014 reference, for older systems:
https://kb.acronis.com/content/39790
Indeed it's mentioned there. Strange thing is that when i make a little FAT volume for testing this i can use the caret in file names on that FAT volume. So i guess that caret limitation really has become outdated and irrelevant.
I'll remove it from MuLab's invalid characters list. It's just a tiny little detail, but now that we spent time on the topic, we can better utilize the spent time, otherwise it's lost.
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No that's not yet supported atm. It's on the wishlist, but not a top prio atm.crossovercable wrote: Tue Jun 20, 2023 3:22 am It should show the stereo track as a stereo waveform (maybe there is an option for this that I missed ?).
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If you are using Win98 WinME you will have issues.mutools wrote: Tue Jun 20, 2023 10:52 am Thx Michael.
Indeed it's mentioned there. Strange thing is that when i make a little FAT volume for testing this i can use the caret in file names on that FAT volume. So i guess that caret limitation really has become outdated and irrelevant.
I'll remove it from MuLab's invalid characters list. It's just a tiny little detail, but now that we spent time on the topic, we can better utilize the spent time, otherwise it's lost.
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FadBad, i'm sorry, when i doublechecked this on 31 may i must have used 44.1 kHz, but i retested it now and indeed can confirm the issue when using a non 44.1 kHz samplerate. But the issue is in MUX 8 Plugin, not in MuLab 9 Plugin. So with MuLab 9 Plugin it has already been fixed.FabBad wrote: Wed May 31, 2023 11:37 pm Jo, can you confirm the issue with the sample rate on plugin version?
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mutools wrote: Wed Jul 19, 2023 11:35 amFadBad, i'm sorry, when i doublechecked this on 31 may i must have used 44.1 kHz, but i retested it now and indeed can confirm the issue when using a non 44.1 kHz samplerate. But the issue is in MUX 8 Plugin, not in MuLab 9 Plugin. So with MuLab 9 Plugin it has already been fixed.FabBad wrote: Wed May 31, 2023 11:37 pm Jo, can you confirm the issue with the sample rate on plugin version?
Hmm initially Mulab plugin 9 was compared against MUX 8 (was the reference)
But thats fine now. Thanks Jo.
I’m offline mostly now on these days due personal issues, also I didn’t have the opportunity to test these betas enough
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