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gentleclockdivider wrote: Wed Jul 19, 2023 8:27 pm
BONES wrote: Tue Jul 18, 2023 11:57 pm
You could just as easily interpret that as U-he having run out of ideas and regurgitating old stuff, couldn't you? I mean, when was the last time U-he released a brand new synth?
.....keep on complaining about a developer that keeps updating stuff .
You mean the developer that was made aware of (and acknowledged) a crash level bug in Hive 2 going on two years ago and still hasn't released a fix for the issue (that they caused by a wonky update)? Their "support" said the workaround is to roll back to the two year old version.

The official response is a fix "might" come this year and they made that sound like they're doing us a favor by fixing the bug they introduced. Or it might be another decade+ while they continue to work on Zebra 3 which will be outdated by the time it's released (if ever).

Yea that's the company that should be getting its arse kissed here on an hourly basis. :roll:
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dionenoid wrote: Thu Jul 20, 2023 11:59 am
pdxindy wrote: Wed Jul 19, 2023 2:20 pm I have nothing from NI installed.
Yet the majority of your posts here on KVR is in NI related topics.
Not even close... just the occasional snow flurry :hihi:

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Teksonik wrote: Thu Jul 20, 2023 12:54 pm
gentleclockdivider wrote: Wed Jul 19, 2023 8:27 pm
BONES wrote: Tue Jul 18, 2023 11:57 pm
You could just as easily interpret that as U-he having run out of ideas and regurgitating old stuff, couldn't you? I mean, when was the last time U-he released a brand new synth?
.....keep on complaining about a developer that keeps updating stuff .
You mean the developer that was made aware of (and acknowledged) a crash level bug in Hive 2 going on two years ago and still hasn't released a fix for the issue (that they caused by a wonky update)? Their "support" said the workaround is to roll back to the two year old version.

The official response is a fix "might" come this year and they made that sound like they're doing us a favor by fixing the bug they introduced. Or it might be another decade+ while they continue to work on Zebra 3 which will be outdated by the time it's released (if ever).

Yea that's the company that should be getting its arse kissed here on an hourly basis. :roll:
True, but one has to do with the creative direction of the company and where their efforts are focused, and the other is a complaint regarding how it functions or the mistakes they do in the form of bugs, slow development, etc.
People are usually more understanding of the second one, as is the case with u-he, while there first one is a conscious and intentional decision by the company.

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Teksonik wrote: Thu Jul 20, 2023 12:54 pm

You mean the developer that was made aware of (and acknowledged) a crash level bug in Hive 2 going on two years ago and still hasn't released a fix for the issue (that they caused by a wonky update)? Their "support" said the workaround is to roll back to the two year old version.

The official response is a fix "might" come this year and they made that sound like they're doing us a favor by fixing the bug they introduced. Or it might be another decade+ while they continue to work on Zebra 3 which will be outdated by the time it's released (if ever).

Yea that's the company that should be getting its arse kissed here on an hourly basis. :roll:
It's also an FL-studio(buffer size ) issue which is explained in the threads you created on the u-he forum .
Why don't you mention that ?
No need to blame U-he only .
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Teksonik wrote: Thu Jul 20, 2023 12:54 pm
gentleclockdivider wrote: Wed Jul 19, 2023 8:27 pm
BONES wrote: Tue Jul 18, 2023 11:57 pm
You could just as easily interpret that as U-he having run out of ideas and regurgitating old stuff, couldn't you? I mean, when was the last time U-he released a brand new synth?
.....keep on complaining about a developer that keeps updating stuff .
You mean the developer that was made aware of (and acknowledged) a crash level bug in Hive 2 going on two years ago and still hasn't released a fix for the issue (that they caused by a wonky update)? Their "support" said the workaround is to roll back to the two year old version.

The official response is a fix "might" come this year and they made that sound like they're doing us a favor by fixing the bug they introduced. Or it might be another decade+ while they continue to work on Zebra 3 which will be outdated by the time it's released (if ever).

Yea that's the company that should be getting its arse kissed here on an hourly basis. :roll:
Shhh. You’re not aloud to criticize U-He here. :borg:
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allowed.
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dionenoid wrote: Thu Jul 20, 2023 12:47 pm
Hammy Havoc wrote: Thu Jul 20, 2023 12:05 pm So, he owns the software, but the lack of development means using it is impractical since switching to Apple Silicon.
https://support.native-instruments.com/ ... ility-News

As you can see, almost all NI products run Native on Apple Silicon. Only a few really old ones don't, but i doubt that he keeps trolling here because his Traktor DJ 2 only runs on Rosetta.
They do now, but they were one of the last developers to get their act together, so to speak and roll out AS support and in the meantime Given their glacial development pace, I can understand why some users might still be reluctant to invest the time and energy into using their products, even with AS and VST3 updates all but complete now.

I don't know what their motivations are for still hanging around but since they can contribute without resulting to grrrr tactics, what does it matter really. Just my 2p.
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Teksonik wrote: Thu Jul 20, 2023 12:54 pm
gentleclockdivider wrote: Wed Jul 19, 2023 8:27 pm
BONES wrote: Tue Jul 18, 2023 11:57 pm
You could just as easily interpret that as U-he having run out of ideas and regurgitating old stuff, couldn't you? I mean, when was the last time U-he released a brand new synth?
.....keep on complaining about a developer that keeps updating stuff .
You mean the developer that was made aware of (and acknowledged) a crash level bug in Hive 2 going on two years ago and still hasn't released a fix for the issue (that they caused by a wonky update)? Their "support" said the workaround is to roll back to the two year old version.

The official response is a fix "might" come this year and they made that sound like they're doing us a favor by fixing the bug they introduced. Or it might be another decade+ while they continue to work on Zebra 3 which will be outdated by the time it's released (if ever).

Yea that's the company that should be getting its arse kissed here on an hourly basis. :roll:
It's one bug with one product, that affects users of a specific DAW and at least they have acknowledged it and have been upfront with you that it's not a priority at this very moment. You are not their only customer, nor is Hive their only concern right now. Get over yourself.

Edit: that last part was more hostile than it needed to be, sorry! I've only seen you and maybe one other user here mention this problem with Hive, so I think it's reasonable to say that it's a minor issue overall and as such u-he are not prioritising it. This problem affects you personally and that sucks for you and I/we get that, but you don't have to be so petty and bitter about it, maybe have a little perspective.
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So anyway, back to NI (the topic of the thread, remember?)

I hear Kontakt is finally scalable, yes?

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mixyguy2 wrote: Thu Jul 20, 2023 2:21 pm So anyway, back to NI (the topic of the thread, remember?)

I hear Kontakt is finally scalable, yes?
Yes. The quality isn’t great here on 125% (I’m not hires tho), but it does work and the menus scale right.
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noiseboyuk wrote: Thu Jul 20, 2023 2:38 pm
mixyguy2 wrote: Thu Jul 20, 2023 2:21 pm So anyway, back to NI (the topic of the thread, remember?)

I hear Kontakt is finally scalable, yes?
Yes. The quality isn’t great here on 125% (I’m not hires tho), but it does work and the menus scale right.
Does the scaling noticeably increase CPU usage? Hoping it doesn't, and that it also makes it to Reaktor.

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Can't we go back to being off topic?
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when they auction off the party yacht, then ill worry.
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vurt wrote: Thu Jul 20, 2023 5:21 pm when they auction off the party yacht, then ill worry.
FWIW the FL Team has a tour bus that (somehow) could be used as a Rammsteinification Module to temper or simply please the NI crowd if the idea is copied and developed a bit further. :!:

https://www.facebook.com/FLStudio/video ... 600919183/

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