Is Theia free to those of us who have previously owned Hyperion?

[jbraner]

I did a quick comparison (with folder match, not counting by hand ) and there isn't anything in the Theia folder that isn't in the Hyperion one - but there are 200 ones in the Hyperion folder that aren't in the Theia.
so the Theia folder is redundant - it makes sense to just use the Hyperion Folder.
Actually Theia is probably redundant too - but we need to check there's nothing there that we're missing

[jabe]

I tried to purchase Theia a few times, using the Labour23, coupon. Each time I have had payment problems, with Paypal or credit card.

Please can Tracktion fix this AND HELP ME - please send me an email.

Did you use LABOUR23 or LABOR23? It's an American holiday, hence the latter.

[dlandis]

From a comment by wavesequencer on YouTube

Yes - that's what we decided to do. In fact you effectively already have Theia inside Hyperion (the combi/big knobs page), but you might like to use the simpler limited interface of Theia.

Right. So, to get back to the question originally posed, is there an answer to my question: do current Hyperion owners then get Theia (with the patches which do not occur in Hyperion) for free as it seems to be stated on the website? If so, what's the story with the free trial? Is this a mistake of some sort?

What patches that don't appear in Hyperion? I can't see where it says it has additional patches?

After looking at them, I'm not sure that there are any new patches either; I think I misinterpreted a comment in an email about Theia to mean that there were additional patches. So far, I haven't found any, but I haven't looked through them all.

[dlandis]

I did a quick comparison (with folder match, not counting by hand ) and there isn't anything in the Theia folder that isn't in the Hyperion one - but there are 200 ones in the Hyperion folder that aren't in the Theia.
so the Theia folder is redundant - it makes sense to just use the Hyperion Folder.
Actually Theia is probably redundant too - but we need to check there's nothing there that we're missing

I beginning to think the "redundancy" conclusion is probably largely correct. Perhaps, just running Theia is less of a hit on RAM or the CPU, but I'm wondering just how big a difference this would be or if it would matter to most in a given instance.

[UnionS8]

Speaking of which, does anyone know how to get the free trials to go away? I demo'd KULT a while back and decided not to get it. Now the download manager hassles me when it gets updated.

There's an eye icon in the download manager which hides unwanted items in the list. I don't get distracted by unwanted content anymore.

[jbraner]

After looking at them, I'm not sure that there are any new patches either; I think I misinterpreted a comment in an email about Theia to mean that there were additional patches.

I thought the same thing...

So far, I haven't found any, but I haven't looked through them all.

Don't bother - I used a file comparison utility to compare the two folders

I beginning to think the "redundancy" conclusion is probably largely correct. Perhaps, just running Theia is less of a hit on RAM or the CPU, but I'm wondering just how big a difference this would be or if it would matter to most in a given instance

I'm thinking we've been wasting our time

[aMUSEd]

From a comment by wavesequencer on YouTube

Yes - that's what we decided to do. In fact you effectively already have Theia inside Hyperion (the combi/big knobs page), but you might like to use the simpler limited interface of Theia.

Right. So, to get back to the question originally posed, is there an answer to my question: do current Hyperion owners then get Theia (with the patches which do not occur in Hyperion) for free as it seems to be stated on the website? If so, what's the story with the free trial? Is this a mistake of some sort?

What patches that don't appear in Hyperion? I can't see where it says it has additional patches?

After looking at them, I'm not sure that there are any new patches either; I think I misinterpreted a comment in an email about Theia to mean that there were additional patches. So far, I haven't found any, but I haven't looked through them all.

I think what may have been meant was there will be additional patch banks coming for Theia (and Hyperion) - Tracktion have clearly hit on the idea that you can sell a lot more addon banks if you create player versions of the plugins they were created in, than if you require everyone to buy the full product to use them.

[jbraner]

Speaking of which, does anyone know how to get the free trials to go away? I demo'd KULT a while back and decided not to get it. Now the download manager hassles me when it gets updated.

There's an eye icon in the download manager which hides unwanted items in the list. I don't get distracted by unwanted content anymore.

I hadn't noticed that! Thanks for the tip
It's a good thing someone's paying attention

[UnionS8]

I think what may have been meant was there will be additional patch banks coming for Theia (and Hyperion) - Tracktion have clearly hit on the idea that you can sell a lot more addon banks if you create player versions of the plugins they were created in, than if you require everyone to buy the full product to use them.

TBH I'm quite short on budget, so I welcome those two new players.

[aMUSEd]

Yes it’s a smart move

[aMUSEd]

dp

[dysjoint]

Hyperion is an absolute beast of a synth, it sounds incredible. If you own it and are comfortable diving in and creating patches then this player probably isn't aimed at you. It can be a bit (very) intimidating for some people and the player is probably a friendly version for the new guys and the preset users.
Ps, I've seen bugs being addressed in hours after being reported on the Wavesequencer discord. It kind of makes you think 'what if' Waveform had the same energy behind it

[jbraner]

UPDATE: Support sent me a unlock key, and I was able to do an offline unlock.
Maybe email support if you still want to try it out.

[dlandis]

UPDATE: Support sent me a unlock key, and I was able to do an offline unlock.
Maybe email support if you still want to try it out.

Here as well.

[jbraner]

I'm going away for a few weeks - so I won't be able to have a look at this...