I Hate This Song - What Song Do You Hate?
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machinesworking machinesworking https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=8505
- KVRAF
- 8025 posts since 15 Aug, 2003 from seattle
I'm not a Cohen fan per say, but this is a weird take.nirm123 wrote: Fri Sep 22, 2023 1:55 pm Hallelujah by Leonard Cohen is definitely the worst song even written, the most depressing and with extremely stupid lyrics.
I'll give you your feelings on the lyrics, that's personal, but if a song depresses you, that is supposed to be a depressing or sentimental song, then it's doing it's job. IMO it's much worse to attempt to elicit some emotion and fail than to succeed on eliciting the specific emotion you were aiming for. It's like listening to the Swans, Joy Division etc. and being upset it's sad music.
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- KVRian
- 712 posts since 7 Sep, 2012
This Thread is called "I Hate This Song - What Song Do You Hate?" - and I hate the song (it's terrible).machinesworking wrote: Fri Sep 22, 2023 3:48 pmI'm not a Cohen fan per say, but this is a weird take.nirm123 wrote: Fri Sep 22, 2023 1:55 pm Hallelujah by Leonard Cohen is definitely the worst song even written, the most depressing and with extremely stupid lyrics.
I'll give you your feelings on the lyrics, that's personal, but if a song depresses you, that is supposed to be a depressing or sentimental song, then it's doing it's job. IMO it's much worse to attempt to elicit some emotion and fail than to succeed on eliciting the specific emotion you were aiming for. It's like listening to the Swans, Joy Division etc. and being upset it's sad music.![]()
It's not called "Justify why this song is bad".
- KVRAF
- 11950 posts since 31 Aug, 2013 from Someplace else
Gormless radger. No, it's not a song. It's a comment on children's absolutism, and arrested development. Whatever Cohen may be, he and his writing are anything but 'stupid.' Sweet bloody Jaysus.

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- addled muppet weed
- 111292 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass
whitney houston - i wanna dance with somebody.
- KVRAF
- 26033 posts since 20 Oct, 2007 from gonesville
TBH I don't take note of bits of music that bother me a lot, for one thing there's far too many, and I can tune out.
Also I would tend not to know what they're called anyway; many things I like I don't know what it's called or who's done it. I hear my own music in my head and at times don't even know what that is, or not immediately.
I'm the absolute worst at name that tune.
I can point to one thing which irritates me on a number of levels if not every possible level and I hope not to ever have to hear again: Taxman by the Beatles. Now, going into my first objection gets us to HPC potentially (or this sure used to be the case nudge.wink) and hopefully that's enuff said. But apart from that, it 'rubs me the wrong way' sonically.
nah, someone will want to fight me on my appended... gesture. some things are just wildly overrated In My Opinion.
Also I would tend not to know what they're called anyway; many things I like I don't know what it's called or who's done it. I hear my own music in my head and at times don't even know what that is, or not immediately.
I can point to one thing which irritates me on a number of levels if not every possible level and I hope not to ever have to hear again: Taxman by the Beatles. Now, going into my first objection gets us to HPC potentially (or this sure used to be the case nudge.wink) and hopefully that's enuff said. But apart from that, it 'rubs me the wrong way' sonically.
nah, someone will want to fight me on my appended... gesture. some things are just wildly overrated In My Opinion.
- KVRAF
- 26033 posts since 20 Oct, 2007 from gonesville
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- KVRian
- 712 posts since 7 Sep, 2012
And to say that a whole decade (80s) was bad just because you've lived in the past since age 18, isn't absolutism? It's extremely more severe than loathing one song by the most overrated songwriter in all time. Do I owe you anything? to go on and attack people who actually express their taste in a thread they were asked to do it because their taste is different than yours, what's wrong with you? (well, except the obvious). I've never confronted you in anyway (up until now it's. I've ignored all your attempts to put me down before, but this time you took it much too far), neither did I refer you in any of my posts before, so not really sure why you have the urge to attack people who's their only crime is to have a different taste than yours and attack them personally! ('arrested development', 'stupid', 'children's absolutism', c'mon!)Bombadil wrote: Fri Sep 22, 2023 4:11 pm Gormless radger. No, it's not a song. It's a comment on children's absolutism, and arrested development. Whatever Cohen may be, he and his writing are anything but 'stupid.' Sweet bloody Jaysus.![]()
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When you wrote that you thought that 'Julia' was the best song on the white album I was shocked, because it's the worst song out of the all damn double album. It's the only song in the Beatles catalog in which only Lennon performs so the song suffers terribly from Lennon's (lack of) playing ability, and the guy was a great songwriter in his prime but the most boring musician ever, again, was also the luckiest as he was surrounded by music geniuses, Paul Mccartney and George Martin.
So I couldn't believe that ANYONE would think that, but I knew that it was a matter of taste and taste is completely subjective, so I just kept quiet about it (I did tell this all to of my friends though, all Beatles fans, and all bursted into uncontrolled laughter. The best song in the white album is 'While my guitar gently weeps', sadly Harrison had only 4,5 really great songs in his career, 3 in the Beatles and a few afterwards, also his well has run dry after 1973. Lennon and McCartney best decision ever was to restrict Harrison's input in Beatles albums, although and I mentioned is before, in 'Abbey Road' his 2 songs are just as good if not better than anything by Lennon/McCartney).
But you just did, darling, you just did.
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- KVRAF
- 5444 posts since 15 Feb, 2020
TBH arguments and insults are the inevitable outcome of this thread. I don’t hate songs but I hate this thread. It’s shit. 
BTW, love a lot of 80s music and Cohen rocks
BTW, love a lot of 80s music and Cohen rocks
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- Boss Lovin' DR
- 14312 posts since 15 Mar, 2002 from the grimness of yorkshire
I just wanted to say that you could do "Gormless Radger" to the music of "Careless Whisper" (which I don't hate..)
Do carry on.
Do carry on.
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- KVRian
- 712 posts since 7 Sep, 2012
Have to agree here. It was cool and funny before people started with personal insults, but I guess it's always like this.revvy wrote: Sat Sep 23, 2023 7:48 am TBH arguments and insults are the inevitable outcome of this thread. I don’t hate songs but I hate this thread. It’s shit.
BTW, love a lot of 80s music and Cohen rocks![]()
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- KVRian
- 712 posts since 7 Sep, 2012
George Michael was a truly talented artist, a great musician who played many instruments and an amazing singer, who can really hate his work? No one..donkey tugger wrote: Sat Sep 23, 2023 8:19 am I just wanted to say that you could do "Gormless Radger" to the music of "Careless Whisper" (which I don't hate..)
Do carry on.
Careless Whisper is a 80s favourite of mine, but his whole career was tremendous. a beautiful artist.
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- Boss Lovin' DR
- 14312 posts since 15 Mar, 2002 from the grimness of yorkshire
I do apologise for my ill considered, nay inappropriate, flippancy forthwith.