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tonymax wrote: Fri Oct 06, 2023 6:46 pm ha, just got an email with the IK tape serial...
just waiting for TAL Drum serial... :hihi: :hihi:
Again metoo :)

Although do I have to install the whole of TRacks just to install tape? If so I can't be bothered, I thought it was a plugin of its own

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I have Tracks, and Tape machines already.. if we dont have to get a refund for TAL. ill give away the serial..

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same... have my synth serial and got the email for the ik tape. just waiting on the drum

cheers
"two fools dancing on the hands of time... yeah the fool and me"

Knot Hardly Productions

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aMUSEd wrote: Fri Oct 06, 2023 6:48 pm
tonymax wrote: Fri Oct 06, 2023 6:46 pm ha, just got an email with the IK tape serial...
just waiting for TAL Drum serial... :hihi: :hihi:
Again metoo :)

Although do I have to install the whole of TRacks just to install tape? If so I can't be bothered, I thought it was a plugin of its own
Yes, but IIRC I think you can delete the other dlls you don't want from your VST folder.

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I also only got free tape so far, which i do not need (have it already). hopefully getting the rest, too..

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perhaps a reassuring word from audiodeluxe would be good about now...

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Don't worry tonymax.
You'll be fine tonymax. / It'll be fine tonymax.
What are you worrying for tonymax?
There's no need to worry tonymax.
There's nothing to worry about tonymax.
It'll turn out all right tonymax.
It isn't as bad as all that tonymax
Anyone who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities.

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I've got the key for the IK Tape too. But I haven't got sh*t for the TAL products yet. Patience patience

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Uncle E wrote: Fri Oct 06, 2023 5:45 pm
Funkybot's Evil Twin wrote: Fri Oct 06, 2023 4:27 pm So if AudioDeluxe wants to buy licenses from resellers for let's say $35 (with the expectation the MSRP will be $60) then turn around and sell them for $11, they certainly should be allowed to. It's not like Patrick gets any less than if Audio Deluxe sold at full price. It should be AD taking the loss.
It de-values the product and TAL will have trouble selling J-8’s at full price moving forward. A good example of this is NI’s u-he sales.
This!!!
As a great fan of Patrick's work.. this does concern me.
rsp
sound sculptist

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I'm cool, not worried, a glass of knob creek, ice, top of tge pops 80's, chillin...
Aloysius wrote: Fri Oct 06, 2023 7:19 pm Don't worry tonymax.
You'll be fine tonymax. / It'll be fine tonymax.
What are you worrying for tonymax?
There's no need to worry tonymax.
There's nothing to worry about tonymax.
It'll turn out all right tonymax.
It isn't as bad as all that tonymax

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TAL’s regular prices are lower than most companies’ sale prices.

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Uncle E wrote: Fri Oct 06, 2023 5:45 pm
Funkybot's Evil Twin wrote: Fri Oct 06, 2023 4:27 pm So if AudioDeluxe wants to buy licenses from resellers for let's say $35 (with the expectation the MSRP will be $60) then turn around and sell them for $11, they certainly should be allowed to. It's not like Patrick gets any less than if Audio Deluxe sold at full price. It should be AD taking the loss.
It de-values the product and TAL will have trouble selling J-8’s at full price moving forward. A good example of this is NI’s u-he sales.
De-values, how? Maybe de-values the perception (or rather, 'eliteness') but nothing else. Mortals will have access to same tools like pros?

Without sales only professionals who make living with it would probably buy it. With sales, others can buy it too. I have never bought U-He product that wasn't on sale. Mind you, I naively keep buying things hoping that I will finally have time to use them "when I retire" (famous last words). So U-he got my money. Probably got money from many others.

Without sales, he would get nothing. He did not de-value anything except someone's perception of his products. And something tells me he doesn't care about it ;)

Or maybe there is some other de-valuation that I can't comprehend, in which case... never mind :)

De-valuation of second hand sales price, maybe? ;)

edit: typo
Last edited by midi sentinel on Fri Oct 06, 2023 7:53 pm, edited 1 time in total.

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I don't think sales de-value plugins. Sales rather reflect the value of plugins.

If you take a look at the release threads of plugin XY here, the vast majority of activity is in the first few weeks to months. Which means that that's the time where the most sales will happen. Most companies do sales after a year or something, to fuel sales at a time where the majority of sales has already happened, and they create more sales than they would have had, had they charged the full price.

At least that's what I always observe here. "New and shiny" is the thing.

That said, this sale is extreme, of course. Maybe it was a mistake, maybe not. I can't imagine that Patrick sold them the licenses that cheap. But, what this created is some attenetion for Audio Deluxe, of course. ;) Maybe that was the whole idea.

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midi sentinel wrote: Fri Oct 06, 2023 7:49 pm
Uncle E wrote: Fri Oct 06, 2023 5:45 pm
Funkybot's Evil Twin wrote: Fri Oct 06, 2023 4:27 pm So if AudioDeluxe wants to buy licenses from resellers for let's say $35 (with the expectation the MSRP will be $60) then turn around and sell them for $11, they certainly should be allowed to. It's not like Patrick gets any less than if Audio Deluxe sold at full price. It should be AD taking the loss.
It de-values the product and TAL will have trouble selling J-8’s at full price moving forward. A good example of this is NI’s u-he sales.
De-values, how? Maybe de-values the perception (or rather, 'eliteness') but nothing else. Mortals will have access to same tools like pros?

Without sales only professionals who make living with it would probably buy it. With sales, others can buy it too. I have never bought U-He product that wasn't on sale. Mind you, I naively keep buying things hoping that I will finally have time to use them "when I retire" (famous last words). So U-he got my money. Probably got money from many others.

Without sales, he would get nothing. He did not de-value anything except someone's perception of his products. And something tells me he doesn't care about it ;)

Or maybe there is some other de-valuation that I can't comprehend, in which case... never mind :)

De-valuation of second hand sales price, maybe? ;)

edit: typo
https://musicsoftwaredeals.com - all music software deals in one place (with price history and price alerts)

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Would you ever pay more than $29.99 for a Waves plugin? If you wouldn’t, you’re proof that over-discounting devalues products.

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