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liquidsound wrote: Thu Nov 02, 2023 2:46 am
Jac459 wrote: Thu Nov 02, 2023 2:39 am
liquidsound wrote: Thu Nov 02, 2023 1:48 am
Jac459 wrote: Thu Nov 02, 2023 1:08 am
vertibration wrote: Wed Nov 01, 2023 9:18 pm
liquidsound wrote: Sat Oct 28, 2023 9:27 am
Yeah. Serum still on another level.
yea, sound quality, wavetable editor, and speed to get idea out......very very good. I feel bad for other companies when Serum 2 drops lmao. Mad props to MA for Current though.....a little more love on that granular side and I think its really nasty
I bought Serum because of this kind of post.... But I don't think it is grounded in reality at all. Serum doesn't sound better than Hive, Avenger, Falcon or Current.
Serum was awesome when it was released in 1874 but now it is just another (good) synth....

Current is more into spectral than wavetable, exactly like Vital, so Serum is not a good comparison. It is like comparing Serum and Novum (I am going a bit too far here lol)....
I could give you a coupon for a box of Q-Tips but reading your conclusion I don’t think it would help.
I mean… :dog:
For awhile I though you had some credentials… :hihi:
What took you so long?!!! :lol:
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All that's left to do is decide to get on this black Friday MA Current or VPS Avenger 2 upgrade + VCV Rack 2 pro. Price range is almost the same. :x
I wish I could take them all :roll:

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Stan Navi wrote: Thu Nov 02, 2023 6:03 am All that's left to do is decide to get on this black Friday MA Current or VPS Avenger 2 upgrade + VCV Rack 2 pro. Price range is almost the same. :x
I wish I could take them all :roll:
A part for the vcv, I have exactly the same dilemma.... I don't love avenger but truth is I use it very often....
On the other hand, current seems fun as hell.
A big decision point will be the pricing...n

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Jac459 wrote: Thu Nov 02, 2023 1:12 am
martiu wrote: Wed Nov 01, 2023 9:57 pm
havran wrote: Wed Nov 01, 2023 9:37 pm
martiu wrote: Wed Nov 01, 2023 9:26 pm
havran wrote: Wed Nov 01, 2023 9:00 pm The pool of potential customers might be larger than the number of people who post disparagements and ultimatums on the internet.

Money talks, but talk is cheap.
Talk about money is still just talk.
you cute little summer child :hug:
And I appreciate your lack of vulgarity.
What can i say, i am just a nice person :hug:
You are!
Get a room you two! We can feel this special tension 💦
:?
aliasing plugin owner
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Jac459 wrote: Thu Nov 02, 2023 1:08 am
vertibration wrote: Wed Nov 01, 2023 9:18 pm
liquidsound wrote: Sat Oct 28, 2023 9:27 am
martiu wrote: Sat Oct 28, 2023 7:39 amsound wise
Yeah. Serum still on another level.
yea, sound quality, wavetable editor, and speed to get idea out......very very good. I feel bad for other companies when Serum 2 drops lmao. Mad props to MA for Current though.....a little more love on that granular side and I think its really nasty
I bought Serum because of this kind of post.... But I don't think it is grounded in reality at all. Serum doesn't sound better than Hive, Avenger, Falcon or Current.
Serum was awesome when it was released in 1874 but now it is just another (good) synth....

Current is more into spectral than wavetable, exactly like Vital, so Serum is not a good comparison. It is like comparing Serum and Novum (I am going a bit too far here lol)....
Nah man, Im a firm believer that a really good sound designer can make any plugin sounds great to a degree. I dont think any one of those plugins sound better or worse than serum. Its all up to the person, and their knowledge/creativity. Maybe those plugins have presets that you "subjectively" like better than Serum, but thats about it.

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vertibration wrote: Thu Nov 02, 2023 6:56 pm
Jac459 wrote: Thu Nov 02, 2023 1:08 am
vertibration wrote: Wed Nov 01, 2023 9:18 pm
liquidsound wrote: Sat Oct 28, 2023 9:27 am
martiu wrote: Sat Oct 28, 2023 7:39 amsound wise
Yeah. Serum still on another level.
yea, sound quality, wavetable editor, and speed to get idea out......very very good. I feel bad for other companies when Serum 2 drops lmao. Mad props to MA for Current though.....a little more love on that granular side and I think its really nasty
I bought Serum because of this kind of post.... But I don't think it is grounded in reality at all. Serum doesn't sound better than Hive, Avenger, Falcon or Current.
Serum was awesome when it was released in 1874 but now it is just another (good) synth....

Current is more into spectral than wavetable, exactly like Vital, so Serum is not a good comparison. It is like comparing Serum and Novum (I am going a bit too far here lol)....
Nah man, Im a firm believer that a really good sound designer can make any plugin sounds great to a degree. I dont think any one of those plugins sound better or worse than serum. Its all up to the person, and their knowledge/creativity. Maybe those plugins have presets that you "subjectively" like better than Serum, but thats about it.
I think you are contradicting me by saying.... Exactly my point.

My point was to say Serum has nothing magical. It sounds like many other "good" wavetable synths like Hive.
It just happens to have come first as a new gen of synth, hence its legendary status.

So I bought it because reading KVR it seemed like a magical synth. But in 2022-2023, it is just "another synth".

So I think your point saying Serum isn't special for in the same way....

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Jac459 wrote: Thu Nov 02, 2023 11:48 pm
vertibration wrote: Thu Nov 02, 2023 6:56 pm
Jac459 wrote: Thu Nov 02, 2023 1:08 am
vertibration wrote: Wed Nov 01, 2023 9:18 pm
liquidsound wrote: Sat Oct 28, 2023 9:27 am
martiu wrote: Sat Oct 28, 2023 7:39 amsound wise
Yeah. Serum still on another level.
yea, sound quality, wavetable editor, and speed to get idea out......very very good. I feel bad for other companies when Serum 2 drops lmao. Mad props to MA for Current though.....a little more love on that granular side and I think its really nasty
I bought Serum because of this kind of post.... But I don't think it is grounded in reality at all. Serum doesn't sound better than Hive, Avenger, Falcon or Current.
Serum was awesome when it was released in 1874 but now it is just another (good) synth....

Current is more into spectral than wavetable, exactly like Vital, so Serum is not a good comparison. It is like comparing Serum and Novum (I am going a bit too far here lol)....
Nah man, Im a firm believer that a really good sound designer can make any plugin sounds great to a degree. I dont think any one of those plugins sound better or worse than serum. Its all up to the person, and their knowledge/creativity. Maybe those plugins have presets that you "subjectively" like better than Serum, but thats about it.
I think you are contradicting me by saying.... Exactly my point.

My point was to say Serum has nothing magical. It sounds like many other "good" wavetable synths like Hive.
It just happens to have come first as a new gen of synth, hence its legendary status.

So I bought it because reading KVR it seemed like a magical synth. But in 2022-2023, it is just "another synth".

So I think your point saying Serum isn't special for in the same way....
Jac Serum is not just another synth.
This guy in the video could be you ATM before he realized what Serum is…
If you have approx 1 exact minute (9:30 to 10:30 video time stamp) it may help you to reflect your quite possible superficial statement about this synth.

Just 60 seconds opinion by one of the best sound designer in the business.

https://www.theunfinished.co.uk/shop/serum-alpha/

You have a phenomenal synth… not “just another”.
ABEFLGMOPPRRST :phones:

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[quote=liquidsound post_id=8779298 time=1698970695 user_id=108991

Jac Serum is not just another synth.
This guy in the video could be you ATM before he realized what Serum is…
If you have approx 1 exact minute (9:30 to 10:30 video time stamp) it may help you to reflect your quite possible superficial statement about this synth.

Just 60 seconds opinion by one of the best sound designer in the business.

https://www.theunfinished.co.uk/shop/serum-alpha/

You have a phenomenal synth… not “just another”.
[/quote]

Thank you for this interesting video. I watched much more than the 1 minute you advised and the sounds produced are great.

BUT

The person you are quoting is saying the same than I do. He is saying that Serum is part of his top 3... With repro and zebra.
My point is this one, I never said it was another synth, I said it is another "good" synth.
When I bought Serum, I was having Diva,
I was having Hive 2,
I was having VPS Avenger,
I was having Falcon,
I was having Phase Plant,
I was having Vital,
I was having Pigments,
I was having Spire,
I was having all the fabulous Reason Ecosystem with Europa,
And much more...

And then naturally I thought Serum is cool.... But not cooler. Should I invest on this more time than the others? Not sure....

Then you could tell me:"but JAC, why the f**k do you buy another wavetable synth when you always have all these great ones, that doesn't make any sense!"

And you would be totally right, but I have this rare and unknown condition named GAS, not sure if you heard of it :) .

Anyway, back on "Current" topic, recently I bought DS Thorn and I loved the spectral touch of it, it has a vital and Europa flavour but more pronounced. Current has such a flavour with its spectral processing and if you add the interesting FX it has, to me it offers a strong distinct value compared to Serum.

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Jac459 wrote: Fri Nov 03, 2023 12:50 am [quote=liquidsound post_id=8779298 time=1698970695 user_id=108991

Jac Serum is not just another synth.
This guy in the video could be you ATM before he realized what Serum is…
If you have approx 1 exact minute (9:30 to 10:30 video time stamp) it may help you to reflect your quite possible superficial statement about this synth.

Just 60 seconds opinion by one of the best sound designer in the business.

https://www.theunfinished.co.uk/shop/serum-alpha/

You have a phenomenal synth… not “just another”.
Thank you for this interesting video. I watched much more than the 1 minute you advised and the sounds produced are great.

BUT

The person you are quoting is saying the same than I do. He is saying that Serum is part of his top 3... With repro and zebra.
My point is this one, I never said it was another synth, I said it is another "good" synth.
When I bought Serum, I was having Diva,
I was having Hive 2,
I was having VPS Avenger,
I was having Falcon,
I was having Phase Plant,
I was having Vital,
I was having Pigments,
I was having Spire,
I was having all the fabulous Reason Ecosystem with Europa,
And much more...

And then naturally I thought Serum is cool.... But not cooler. Should I invest on this more time than the others? Not sure....

Then you could tell me:"but JAC, why the f**k do you buy another wavetable synth when you always have all these great ones, that doesn't make any sense!"

And you would be totally right, but I have this rare and unknown condition named GAS, not sure if you heard of it :) .

Anyway, back on "Current" topic, recently I bought DS Thorn and I loved the spectral touch of it, it has a vital and Europa flavour but more pronounced. Current has such a flavour with its spectral processing and if you add the interesting FX it has, to me it offers a strong distinct value compared to Serum.


GAS... :hihi: How about green energy? :D
Current will be a fun synth to use due to the whole package...
ABEFLGMOPPRRST :phones:

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Latest episode of Will it Shill?! Skip to middle somewhere for the actual content:

<list your stupid gear here>

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martiu wrote: Thu Nov 02, 2023 9:45 am
Jac459 wrote: Thu Nov 02, 2023 1:12 am
martiu wrote: Wed Nov 01, 2023 9:57 pm
havran wrote: Wed Nov 01, 2023 9:37 pm
martiu wrote: Wed Nov 01, 2023 9:26 pm
havran wrote: Wed Nov 01, 2023 9:00 pm The pool of potential customers might be larger than the number of people who post disparagements and ultimatums on the internet.

Money talks, but talk is cheap.
Talk about money is still just talk.
you cute little summer child :hug:
And I appreciate your lack of vulgarity.
What can i say, i am just a nice person :hug:
You are!
Get a room you two! We can feel this special tension 💦
:?
Yeah. I think this Jac459 is a name to remember and despise.

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f**k me, its a quote-fest in here.

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m-ac wrote: Sat Nov 04, 2023 11:11 am f**k me, its a quote-fest in here.
blem me dab dab.
<list your stupid gear here>

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havran wrote: Sat Nov 04, 2023 3:02 am Yeah. I think this Jac459 is a name to remember and despise.
I don't think I deserve such a strong feeling my friend. I personally will have forgotten your name in .... Oh no, wait I already did. :D

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Jac459 wrote: Sat Nov 04, 2023 11:56 am
havran wrote: Sat Nov 04, 2023 3:02 am Yeah. I think this Jac459 is a name to remember and despise.
I don't think I deserve such a strong feeling my friend. I personally will have forgotten your name in .... Oh no, wait I already did. :D
oh just get a room you two, i can feel the tension :love:
aliasing plugin owner
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