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kraster wrote: Sat Nov 11, 2023 10:54 am
Yeah. The amount of options even within one wavetable is mind boggling.

I would love a manual to briefly explain what each effect is doing.

I keep stumbling across things too. (Haven’t watched all the videos).

Like I didn’t know you could alter the level of the fundamental and the harmonics independently in the sub oscillator.

Or using a specific oscillator source in the envelope follower allows you to use it as a general modulator for anything. e.g. using noise from the sampler as a source (“pre fader”) with the attack and release all the way down.

Doing the same thing with a sine wave gives you another way of doing FM. You can use it for Filter FM, for example.

Or using the random parameter on a square LFO gives you classic sample and hold style modulation.

You can then combine these so you could have the sample and hold LFO’s level modulated by the noise driven envelope follower for cross modulation weirdness.

The synth is a great example of being complex without being complicated.
Whaou man ! I would never have found the trick with the envelop follower ! That's excellent.

I am a sucker for modulations and I am a sucker for audiorate modulation.
I would not have guessed it was possible with Current in a way that is actually... very logical.

Excellent trick and excellent synth.

Thanks again mate.

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Zoopy wrote: Sat Nov 11, 2023 6:54 am
biomechanoid wrote: Sat Nov 11, 2023 2:00 am
Zoopy wrote: Sat Nov 11, 2023 12:27 am Ohh and a chord trigger mode pleaaaase
Already has a pretty cool chord mode... above Arp in the bottom panel.
chord mode in the arp specifically. as in trigger chords w the arp as chords.
Ah, OK. Yeah, that'd be useful.
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biomechanoid wrote: Sat Nov 11, 2023 12:04 pm
Zoopy wrote: Sat Nov 11, 2023 6:54 am
biomechanoid wrote: Sat Nov 11, 2023 2:00 am
Zoopy wrote: Sat Nov 11, 2023 12:27 am Ohh and a chord trigger mode pleaaaase
Already has a pretty cool chord mode... above Arp in the bottom panel.
chord mode in the arp specifically. as in trigger chords w the arp as chords.
Ah, OK. Yeah, that'd be useful.
Isn't it possible by swapping chord/arp modules order? You can click and drag the chord module below arp and vice versa. Putting chord module after arp will cause arp to trigger chords.
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spektralisk wrote: Sat Nov 11, 2023 12:20 pm
biomechanoid wrote: Sat Nov 11, 2023 12:04 pm
Zoopy wrote: Sat Nov 11, 2023 6:54 am
biomechanoid wrote: Sat Nov 11, 2023 2:00 am
Zoopy wrote: Sat Nov 11, 2023 12:27 am Ohh and a chord trigger mode pleaaaase
Already has a pretty cool chord mode... above Arp in the bottom panel.
chord mode in the arp specifically. as in trigger chords w the arp as chords.
Ah, OK. Yeah, that'd be useful.
Isn't it possible by swapping chord/arp modules order? You can click and drag the chord module below arp and vice versa. Putting chord module after arp will cause arp to trigger chords.
Yeah, but I assume that'd only trigger the predefined chords set up in the chord module rather than being able to play any chord.
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Jac459 wrote: Sat Nov 11, 2023 8:18 am
Biscotto wrote: Sat Nov 11, 2023 7:10 am
Jac459 wrote: Sat Nov 11, 2023 6:22 am
Biscotto wrote: Sat Nov 11, 2023 3:36 am So far OK.
The built-in FX are the real deal here.
Definitely I need to make my own presets for this one like I did for Serum.
Overall, the $199.00 is reasonable because, again, the built-in FX gives it an edge over the obvious competition.
For me it is also the oscillators.
Very similar to Vital which I love but slightly better.
“Slightly” is too little to discern.
It’s definitely a synth that it will have to keep up with what’s coming….
No no, it isn't too little... Sorry, I don't mean that I am comparing 2 perfect sine wave form both oversampled 8x synth and pretend I hear a difference between both.

I don't.

My remark is very ground-based. The wavetables oscillators of Vital and Current have both waveshaping and spectral treatments. Current has much more (maybe twice) effects to be applied to the wavetable ocillators than Vital. That's why I am saying it is better. In comparison, Serum has no spectral capacity on the oscillators, only waveshaping.
The 3 of them have kick-ass Unison...
Gotcha :D
Some people, for example, judge the raw OSC of Hive vs Dune 3 (no intention to deviate the conversation) and prefer one or the other. I don’t spend time on being confused as such :lol: but for me there is a point where less is more.
I’ll probably get Current on the RTO for the sheer fact of the FX and eventually probably the entire product line.
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Biscotto wrote: Sat Nov 11, 2023 2:17 pmbut for me there is a point where less is more.
IIRK your Fazioli is far from less :hihi:
ABEFLGMOPPRRST :phones:

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Biscotto wrote: Sat Nov 11, 2023 2:17 pm Gotcha :D
Some people, for example, judge the raw OSC of Hive vs Dune 3 (no intention to deviate the conversation) and prefer one or the other. I don’t spend time on being confused as such :lol: but for me there is a point where less is more.
Fully agree and by the way, it is quite astonishing how some people are able to hear the most crazy subtile difference ... until we do a true A/B blind test and they don't hear anything anymore... Lol... There is a lot of cognitive bias here and it is quite funny... By the way, do you know why "hi-res" audio doesn't use blind A/B test to demonstrate the superiority of the format over our good old CD format ? Because the blind tests are not showing any significative difference...
I’ll probably get Current on the RTO for the sheer fact of the FX and eventually probably the entire product line.
I made the jump this week on the synth... Probably not on the FX, I love the Output/Fabfilter combination way too much to change for anything else.

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Jac459 wrote: Sat Nov 11, 2023 3:57 pmI made the jump this week on the synth... Probably not on the FX, I love the Output/Fabfilter combination way too much to change for anything else.
No, don’t change just add… :D
Reason - Reaktor

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liquidsound wrote: Sat Nov 11, 2023 3:55 pm
Biscotto wrote: Sat Nov 11, 2023 2:17 pmbut for me there is a point where less is more.
IIRK your Fazioli is far from less :hihi:
Of course is less, it’s a 212 not a 308! :D
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Lbdunequest wrote: Fri Nov 10, 2023 12:36 pm If you are reading, Minimal Audio please implament wavetable search option (without need of using stream) :) also how to do PWM?
Noted :)

You can PWM any wavetable by using the SHAPE -> SKEW option on the WAVE knob.

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kraster wrote: Sat Nov 11, 2023 10:54 am
Jac459 wrote: Sat Nov 11, 2023 8:18 am
Biscotto wrote: Sat Nov 11, 2023 7:10 am
Jac459 wrote: Sat Nov 11, 2023 6:22 am
Biscotto wrote: Sat Nov 11, 2023 3:36 am So far OK.
The built-in FX are the real deal here.
Definitely I need to make my own presets for this one like I did for Serum.
Overall, the $199.00 is reasonable because, again, the built-in FX gives it an edge over the obvious competition.
For me it is also the oscillators.
Very similar to Vital which I love but slightly better.
“Slightly” is too little to discern.
It’s definitely a synth that it will have to keep up with what’s coming….
No no, it isn't too little... Sorry, I don't mean that I am comparing 2 perfect sine wave form both oversampled 8x synth and pretend I hear a difference between both.

I don't.

My remark is very ground-based. The wavetables oscillators of Vital and Current have both waveshaping and spectral treatments. Current has much more (maybe twice) effects to be applied to the wavetable ocillators than Vital. That's why I am saying it is better. In comparison, Serum has no spectral capacity on the oscillators, only waveshaping.
The 3 of them have kick-ass Unison...
Yeah. The amount of options even within one wavetable is mind boggling.

I would love a manual to briefly explain what each effect is doing.

I keep stumbling across things too. (Haven’t watched all the videos).

Like I didn’t know you could alter the level of the fundamental and the harmonics independently in the sub oscillator.

Or using a specific oscillator source in the envelope follower allows you to use it as a general modulator for anything. e.g. using noise from the sampler as a source (“pre fader”) with the attack and release all the way down.

Doing the same thing with a sine wave gives you another way of doing FM. You can use it for Filter FM, for example.

Or using the random parameter on a square LFO gives you classic sample and hold style modulation.

You can then combine these so you could have the sample and hold LFO’s level modulated by the noise driven envelope follower for cross modulation weirdness.

The synth is a great example of being complex without being complicated.
That's pretty interesting. Does it really modulated at audio rate though? Or is it like using an Osc source as modulator in the Spire mod matrix where it isn't calculated at audio rate but at some slower mod rate (not sure what) so does exactly sound like fm. Havent tested that yet. If it was audio rate mod and you can target anything that would be pretty impressive, like a bazille type audio rate mod anywhere kinda thing.

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Echoes in the Attic wrote: Sat Nov 11, 2023 7:36 pm
kraster wrote: Sat Nov 11, 2023 10:54 am
Jac459 wrote: Sat Nov 11, 2023 8:18 am
Biscotto wrote: Sat Nov 11, 2023 7:10 am
Jac459 wrote: Sat Nov 11, 2023 6:22 am
Biscotto wrote: Sat Nov 11, 2023 3:36 am So far OK.
The built-in FX are the real deal here.
Definitely I need to make my own presets for this one like I did for Serum.
Overall, the $199.00 is reasonable because, again, the built-in FX gives it an edge over the obvious competition.
For me it is also the oscillators.
Very similar to Vital which I love but slightly better.
“Slightly” is too little to discern.
It’s definitely a synth that it will have to keep up with what’s coming….
No no, it isn't too little... Sorry, I don't mean that I am comparing 2 perfect sine wave form both oversampled 8x synth and pretend I hear a difference between both.

I don't.

My remark is very ground-based. The wavetables oscillators of Vital and Current have both waveshaping and spectral treatments. Current has much more (maybe twice) effects to be applied to the wavetable ocillators than Vital. That's why I am saying it is better. In comparison, Serum has no spectral capacity on the oscillators, only waveshaping.
The 3 of them have kick-ass Unison...
Yeah. The amount of options even within one wavetable is mind boggling.

I would love a manual to briefly explain what each effect is doing.

I keep stumbling across things too. (Haven’t watched all the videos).

Like I didn’t know you could alter the level of the fundamental and the harmonics independently in the sub oscillator.

Or using a specific oscillator source in the envelope follower allows you to use it as a general modulator for anything. e.g. using noise from the sampler as a source (“pre fader”) with the attack and release all the way down.

Doing the same thing with a sine wave gives you another way of doing FM. You can use it for Filter FM, for example.

Or using the random parameter on a square LFO gives you classic sample and hold style modulation.

You can then combine these so you could have the sample and hold LFO’s level modulated by the noise driven envelope follower for cross modulation weirdness.

The synth is a great example of being complex without being complicated.
That's pretty interesting. Does it really modulated at audio rate though? Or is it like using an Osc source as modulator in the Spire mod matrix where it isn't calculated at audio rate but at some slower mod rate (not sure what) so does exactly sound like fm. Havent tested that yet. If it was audio rate mod and you can target anything that would be pretty impressive, like a bazille type audio rate mod anywhere kinda thing.
Not sure if it's full audio rate.

One thing I noticed is that the engine control rate (in the advanced menu) seem to have an effect on this kind of modulation when you change it. It seems to hang together better at higher rates when you have the engine control rate set to maximum.

When assigned to pitch it does sound quite "FM"ish. Although when you assign the modulation to the same source as the envelope follower source it kind of sounds odd. (This would be the equivalent to feedback on an FM synth.)

It's still a really interesting source for modulation. It opens up a lot of possibilities.

Using the granular sampler as a source for the envelope follower and assigning it to the spectral effects in the wavetables leads to some really really wild sounds.

This synth is enormous fun!

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I lost track.
Shall I buy now?
Please simple ansers!

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martinjuenke wrote: Sat Nov 11, 2023 9:15 pm I lost track.
Shall I buy now?
Please simple ansers!
Yes. Best way is rto for a year first.

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Rent now!

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