Issue with EQ.
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- KVRist
- 401 posts since 10 Dec, 2002
Yes, several years known issue. The advice is simple: use another EQ.
(For example: viewtopic.php?t=600400)
(For example: viewtopic.php?t=600400)
Waveform 12 Pro, Cubase Pro 13, Windows 11, i7-13700H
- KVRist
- 367 posts since 26 Feb, 2017 from Lituania,Vilnius
Low cpu usage and convenient operation Free TB_Equalizer_v3
Orion, Bitwig, Tracktion, Mixbus
Win 10, intel i7, ram 20 steinberg UR22mkII
Win 10, intel i7, ram 20 steinberg UR22mkII
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- KVRist
- 401 posts since 10 Dec, 2002
...or Mequalizer within the awesome Melda Productions Free Bundle.
These two are the best free equalizers (TDL Nova is the third and is dynamic) IMHO 
Waveform 12 Pro, Cubase Pro 13, Windows 11, i7-13700H
- KVRist
- 367 posts since 26 Feb, 2017 from Lituania,Vilnius
"Would you like me to tell the story of my proposal for a built-in equalizer and the final implementation?))"
YES!
YES!
Orion, Bitwig, Tracktion, Mixbus
Win 10, intel i7, ram 20 steinberg UR22mkII
Win 10, intel i7, ram 20 steinberg UR22mkII
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- KVRist
- 359 posts since 21 Jun, 2020
Great! It will probably be tomorrow. But, maybe I’ll post a picture today. Let me clarify right away: I’m not angry at the developers for this 
And yet, the built-in equalizer blurs the sound. Smoothes out sound nuances. If you are interested, compare how the built-in equalizer affects the wave using a Wave observer or Psyscope oscilloscope; in real time you can see the wave before eq and after eq. Almost all equalizers on the market suffer from this. The closest to the original are FF and Kirchhoff. And the most beautiful-sounding ones based on Bezier curves are SplineEq or Psyphaz. This is just my opinion
But they have a minus, although this is a matter of taste and habit 
And yet, the built-in equalizer blurs the sound. Smoothes out sound nuances. If you are interested, compare how the built-in equalizer affects the wave using a Wave observer or Psyscope oscilloscope; in real time you can see the wave before eq and after eq. Almost all equalizers on the market suffer from this. The closest to the original are FF and Kirchhoff. And the most beautiful-sounding ones based on Bezier curves are SplineEq or Psyphaz. This is just my opinion
- KVRian
- 615 posts since 30 Apr, 2003 from London, UK
To be honest, it's not realistic to expect a built in eq to compete with Fab Filter which costs £144, twice as much as Waveform 12 can be had for in black friday sale (if past history repeats). I'm not saying WF eqs should not be better and bug free. For what it's worth I tend to use SSL X-Eq2 and Sonnox Claro, both of which I bought stupid cheap for the quality and workflow they bring to the table.
'He craved immortality so much, he was prepared to die for it.'
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- KVRist
- 401 posts since 10 Dec, 2002
I'm sorry to hijack the thread, but... What's so special about the Sonnox Claro sound wise? I'm demoing it right now and the features are awesome. But are there any audio advantages over other VST EQs? Or even better: Do you have any advice how to test different EQs, so they show the "smearing" you were mentioning before?operandx wrote: Sun Nov 12, 2023 4:57 pm To be honest, it's not realistic to expect a built in eq to compete with Fab Filter which costs £144, twice as much as Waveform 12 can be had for in black friday sale (if past history repeats). I'm not saying WF eqs should not be better and bug free. For what it's worth I tend to use SSL X-Eq2 and Sonnox Claro, both of which I bought stupid cheap for the quality and workflow they bring to the table.
Waveform 12 Pro, Cubase Pro 13, Windows 11, i7-13700H
- KVRian
- 615 posts since 30 Apr, 2003 from London, UK
Claro is just a good sounding eq, to my ears, but there are many just as good, where it shines is it's features which fit in with my way of thinking and working. I won't bother spending valuable recording time analysing plugins with Plugin Doctor and the like so I couldn't say whether it's better than others, designing a digital eq is a balance of compromises anyway. Use your earsUnionS8 wrote: Sun Nov 12, 2023 6:36 pmI'm sorry to hijack the thread, but... What's so special about the Sonnox Claro sound wise? I'm demoing it right now and the features are awesome. But are there any audio advantages over other VST EQs? Or even better: Do you have any advice how to test different EQs, so they show the "smearing" you were mentioning before?operandx wrote: Sun Nov 12, 2023 4:57 pm To be honest, it's not realistic to expect a built in eq to compete with Fab Filter which costs £144, twice as much as Waveform 12 can be had for in black friday sale (if past history repeats). I'm not saying WF eqs should not be better and bug free. For what it's worth I tend to use SSL X-Eq2 and Sonnox Claro, both of which I bought stupid cheap for the quality and workflow they bring to the table.
'He craved immortality so much, he was prepared to die for it.'
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- KVRist
- 359 posts since 21 Jun, 2020
@operandx I completely agree with you! But, I’ll ask a question: what if a built-in tool appears in some daw that will be of extra modern quality and level, like eq? Do others have such opportunities? No. This is an option for attracting and developing
especially since the functions can be divided into free and paid versions.
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- KVRist
- 401 posts since 10 Dec, 2002
OK, I'm gonna use my ears, yes. But is there anything I should focus on in the term of the sound smearing? I have never come across this term, and I don't think I have heard any evidence of it in my mixes before. But maybe I just don't know how to find it (hear it). Could someone help me, please?
Waveform 12 Pro, Cubase Pro 13, Windows 11, i7-13700H
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- KVRer
- Topic Starter
- 12 posts since 7 Nov, 2023
Thanks for your reply. I'm ussing other EQ right now.UnionS8 wrote: Wed Nov 08, 2023 8:43 am Yes, several years known issue. The advice is simple: use another EQ.
(For example: viewtopic.php?t=600400)
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- KVRer
- Topic Starter
- 12 posts since 7 Nov, 2023
I am a Linux user, so there are less alternatives than on other OS like Windows or Mac, but I found a set of plugins for Linux that are awesome, https://lsp-plug.in/.
Thanks for reply.
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- KVRer
- Topic Starter
- 12 posts since 7 Nov, 2023
Thankyou all for taking your time to reply. I have more problems with Waveform free, like the impossible mission of automate the modwheel of Hive 2 and others alike. I'm trying Reaper as a DAW and I must say that it's very impressive. I am going to still making things with this two DAWs and in a week or two I'll decide.
Thanks for all guys.
Thanks for all guys.
