VPS Avenger 2.4 [RELEASED - FAQ in OP]

[bmanic]

Is there a way to stop Avenger from voice-stealing while using the sustain pedal (CC64)?

For example, if I have a pad sound and I play the same note repeatedly without cc64, multiple voices of polyphony are used (good).

However, if I play the same note repeatedly while using the sustain pedal, Avenger re-uses the same voice. It's also represented in Avenger's polyphony meter. Repeated playing one note with cc64 engaged uses only one voice. Without cc64 and a long release engages multiple voices.

Is there a way to change that cc64 voice-stealing behavior in Avenger?
Thnx

Yeah this one is a real bummer. It works very unintuitively and leads to exceptionally bad performance when playing with a sustain pedal.

I hope this can be fixed at some point.

In general, voice allocation would be nice to have an option that it works as a big universal voice (like in traditional synths), not per oscillator. As it is setup now, many synthesizer techniques are impossible to play. You can't setup a 4 voice polyphonic patch and abuse that voice stealing for creative purposes.

So basically I'd love to be able to have a preset that has for instance 5 oscillators in use but then have it all counted as a single "voice" and then be able to set the polyphony to 3 notes and abuse the stealing with options for controlling low/high and last note priority.

[Chipi]

I enjoyed Miguel's tutorial on the randomizer. I don't understand the need to use so much delay on EVERYTHING...

Who is Miguel? ...Manuel you mean?

[Chipi]

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...but to be fair as I went through it there is a fair amount of variety, but pretty much all with randomised ARPs and melodies. Which is clever and all (and I did like the rhythmic generation), but I guess I'm looking for playable soundscapes, pads, leads, basses etc, so not so much loops either tbh. In general the more baked-in melodic and harmonic content there is, the less useful I find it. I even like my arps single note and playable on the keys.

Other customers, clearly, are available...

Yeah i am with Guy here.
rsp

I am also ok with simpler sounds and not whole compositions. But on another hand it can be quite nice to have elaborated "sequences" to put in perspective each sound. After you just have to deconstruct (it is a bit painful but manageable) to get the individual sounds you like.

So in this case, I recommend Arturia, Korg or Roland Cloud bundles if you are looking for electric pianos, acoustic pianos, horns and other classic sounds. VPS is a synthesizer for the electronic, cinematic, hip-hop, pop, and dance style musician, which is most of what you hear when you turn on the radio in the USA, logically it is impossible to cover all tastes, but name me a synthesizer with the beastly quality of the VPS that does it all? Avenger v2 has a quality out of this world, just listen to it connected to studio monitors and you will see it, throw those headphones out the window, buy good monitors and enjoy the VPS, the best synthesizer on the market, far superior to Omnisphere, just to name 1. Cheers!

[Jac459]

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...but to be fair as I went through it there is a fair amount of variety, but pretty much all with randomised ARPs and melodies. Which is clever and all (and I did like the rhythmic generation), but I guess I'm looking for playable soundscapes, pads, leads, basses etc, so not so much loops either tbh. In general the more baked-in melodic and harmonic content there is, the less useful I find it. I even like my arps single note and playable on the keys.

Other customers, clearly, are available...

Yeah i am with Guy here.
rsp

I am also ok with simpler sounds and not whole compositions. But on another hand it can be quite nice to have elaborated "sequences" to put in perspective each sound. After you just have to deconstruct (it is a bit painful but manageable) to get the individual sounds you like.

So in this case, I recommend Arturia, Korg or Roland Cloud bundles if you are looking for electric pianos, acoustic pianos, horns and other classic sounds. VPS is a synthesizer for the electronic, cinematic, hip-hop, pop, and dance style musician, which is most of what you hear when you turn on the radio in the USA, logically it is impossible to cover all tastes, but name me a synthesizer with the beastly quality of the VPS that does it all? Avenger v2 has a quality out of this world, just listen to it connected to studio monitors and you will see it, throw those headphones out the window, buy good monitors and enjoy the VPS, the best synthesizer on the market, far superior to Omnisphere, just to name 1. Cheers!

Not sure how your reply is related to my post....

But I actually agree with what you say.

[DCrown]

Unfortunately I can't use the macro knobs without having crackles, I tried buffer size 128, 256, 512. It only works when I close gui. And loading times of presets are longer.
Since I added factory 2 content I can't use V1. 85 any more. When I load V 1.85 in my daw, I am asked to log in, it says "successful", but I am asked to login again and again. Obviously you can't use both versions, because V1 of course can not load factory 2 content. Not good!

I re-installed v 1.85, but doesn't work.
How can you use v1 and v2 having one folder with expansions and factory sounds only?
And what do you exactly have to do every 90 days? Just login into Account of Vengeance website?

[sacer]

It’s not only the macro, that are all parameters you want to map. CPU load rises up to 100 percent on every moved mapped parameter

[DCrown]

It’s not only the macro, that are all parameters you want to map. CPU load rises up to 100 percent on every moved mapped parameter

Ok, even worse than just not good.
I can play Avenger without the gui only, but that's not what I want.
Wasn't v2 announced to be even more cpu-friendly?
I would at least like to still be able to use
v1 85, never had issues

[Chipi]

Unfortunately I can't use the macro knobs without having crackles, I tried buffer size 128, 256, 512. It only works when I close gui. And loading times of presets are longer.
Since I added factory 2 content I can't use V1. 85 any more. When I load V 1.85 in my daw, I am asked to log in, it says "successful", but I am asked to login again and again. Obviously you can't use both versions, because V1 of course can not load factory 2 content. Not good!

I re-installed v 1.85, but doesn't work.
How can you use v1 and v2 having one folder with expansions and factory sounds only?
And what do you exactly have to do every 90 days? Just login into Account of Vengeance website?

I have not noticed clicks using the macro with automation in FL Studio 21, which in fact works amazing with VPS, what I have noticed are 'clicks' in the envelope and in the attack that is impossible to remove, I am investigating what could be causing it, since it was not in version 1.8.

[DCrown]

I have also noticed that CPU of Avenger is not displayed in Reaper!? Every plugin's cpu is normally displayed. I know Avenger has its own cpu display, but I mean Reaper, how could Avenger crack Reaper and make usual functions not work?

I am curious now to see whether these complaints will be taken seriously or whether dev will uphold his reputation as a "deaf" person.

[kraster]

logically it is impossible to cover all tastes, but name me a synthesizer with the beastly quality of the VPS that does it all? Cheers!

Falcon 3!

[DCrown]

Someone posted that new factory sounds are nothing special. Well, didn't had the time to check them all, but played tge new piano&keys, they are all (!!!) simply awesome, don't know any other plugin with so special pianos&keys, great!

[DCrown]

Unfortunately I can't use the macro knobs without having crackles, I tried buffer size 128, 256, 512. It only works when I close gui. And loading times of presets are longer.
Since I added factory 2 content I can't use V1. 85 any more. When I load V 1.85 in my daw, I am asked to log in, it says "successful", but I am asked to login again and again. Obviously you can't use both versions, because V1 of course can not load factory 2 content. Not good!

I re-installed v 1.85, but doesn't work.
How can you use v1 and v2 having one folder with expansions and factory sounds only?
And what do you exactly have to do every 90 days? Just login into Account of Vengeance website?

I have not noticed clicks using the macro with automation in FL Studio 21, which in fact works amazing with VPS, what I have noticed are 'clicks' in the envelope and in the attack that is impossible to remove, I am investigating what could be causing it, since it was not in version 1.8.

Macro with automation is no issue, but when you move the macros in real-time with a controller while you are playing/performing there are crackles. But I can do it when I close gui without crackles

[Musical Gym]

I enjoyed Miguel's tutorial on the randomizer. I don't understand the need to use so much delay on EVERYTHING...

Who is Miguel? ...Manuel you mean?

[Musical Gym]

logically it is impossible to cover all tastes, but name me a synthesizer with the beastly quality of the VPS that does it all? Cheers!

Falcon 3!

free upgrade to version 3 also

[Gam456]

VPS, the best synthesizer on the market, far superior to Omnisphere, just to name 1. Cheers!

...In the World, the Universe, the Galaxy and behond
Omnisphere, Falcon, sound like a toy. Falcon is so bad, UVI offer you the upgrade.

Yes it's sarcasm