"Actually, as my very first grid device, i wanted to build an audio looper. With the grid being a highly praised "omnipotent" tool, i was sure that this should be possible in a smooth way. WRONG. The audio recorder of the grid records 6 seconds only, haha! And it doesn’t have any additional functions beyond simple playback. And the Sampler can’t be fed with live audio. So the Grid desperately needs better Audio-Recording abilities for live-performance. The best thing would be to let users record live audio directly into the Sampler, while also adding better automatic slicing to it."mxbf wrote: ↑Mon Dec 18, 2023 9:33 pm Thought I'd make a thread solely focused on the Bitwig Grid.
It's basically a built in modular environment similar to something like Nord Modular or VCV Rack that lets you build things along the lines of what you can do there. It's pretty awesome but I never really find myself using it in my main workflow, which is something I would like to change. I think integrating it into my main daily tools would open up a whole world of sounds and creative potential and fluency. My main impediment is I generally just find it kind of cumbersome to rapidly build something, mainly because I am not fluent in the components and general approach.
Anyway, one thing I thought the other day that the Grid really could use, is an improved Sampler module. Like, Sampler+ in the grid. That would be awesome. As it stands, the current Sampler doesn't have built in automatic chopping which I think would add possibilities of triggering random slices. Though now that I think about it you could achieve something similar to it by modulating sample start.
Also, I think something the Grid could really use would be expanded possibilities like something more like Max/MSP where theres scripting and more technical aspects opened up to let users have even more freedom tinkering and doing crazy stuff.
I guess for people who are interested in synthesis, the grid must feel like heaven.
Since my main interest for building something in the grid never was about synthesis, but audio live manipulation, i have to say that i am extremely disappointed in it.
Thankfully, i found an outside-the-grid solution to building an audio looper but that's another story
Concerning your feature wish for the grid to become more like m4l, i fully agree. Let me add my thoughts:
- Bitwig should please extend the Grid to be like Max 4 Live, but better, with stability as top priority. Stability is the absolute top priority, imho, and i trust in Bitwigs team and Bitwigs architecture (plugin sandboxing!), to make this come true!
If the grid becomes as powerful as m4l, while also being stable and never crashing the DAW itself, m4l users and developers will consider switching to Bitwig. Because they'll know "what can be done in m4l, can be done over there at Bitwig too, but BETTER/stable/reliant".
- Full access to the API, so the users can create all the awesome tools which they are missing from Bitwig, on any level of the DAW. Piano roll improvements, check. Interface settings improvements... whatever you can dream of.
- An Environment (Editor), where users will be able to do scripting actions, AND create a graphical interface for their devices! Lack of custom GUIs/Windows is a severe impairment, if you compare the grid with the universe which is m4l. (Visual Browser, Plugin Wrappers, Loopstation with floating windows... to name a few)