Discovery Pro synthesizer 6.4 to 8.0 REBOOT

[ATS]

They're handling this very poorly. I mean, they couldn't screw this up even more, right? At least they haven't sent out threatening emails to people telling them if they don't take down their posts they might ban you from their services.
*checks email*
OH WAIT.

Are you serious or joking? Did you get a threatening email from DiscoDSP?

Yes. They want me to take down the post where I show the price of my update because apparently, that was a "private offer". The offer was "tailored specifically for you, based on our mutual understanding of confidentiality and trust in our business relationship."

Didn't ask for one, I haven't been communicating with them, so...

Then it ends with:

"Please understand that if the post is not removed, we may have to consider further actions, including a potential suspension of your services with us."

this is just insane

[djanthonyw]

Serial makes no difference from C/R.... Your serial can be revoked (blacklisted) for next update, and you are stuck with the version you got.

It actually does make a huge difference. The difference is that you don't have to worry about running out of authorizations and begging the company for more.

[modularmoog]

Serial makes no difference from C/R.... Your serial can be revoked (blacklisted) for next update, and you are stuck with the version you got.

It actually does make a huge difference. The difference is that you don't have to worry about running out of authorizations and begging the company for more.

Yes, everybody know serials is the most convenient way for customers. But as we were speaking about a madman and his threats against revoking my Discovery Pro license it would not make a difference (serial at next version would render invalid, so would C/R).

Anyways this will not be a problem now as next update is a paid version

[audiojunkie]

Serial makes no difference from C/R.... Your serial can be revoked (blacklisted) for next update, and you are stuck with the version you got. Anyways, I was also threatened by DiscoD$P.

I tried to reply, but I could not as they have disabled that feature. In this case I saw no other option than to report this to KVR (I am still waiting for them to get back to me)

I can understand the situation is not nice for discoDSP, but this shady biz tricking customers and giving them lies should not be accepted, nor tolerated.

Honestly i don´t give a #### if they lower themselves to actually revoke my license. What company would sink that low??

At worst, I would miss maybe three or four likely insignificant posts before I would be expected to pay a huge upgrade price for the next whole version. The more I hear about these threats, the more mad I get. I remember all of the other things he’s done, and buried memories come back. I absolutely hate bullies, and unfounded legal threats is some of the worst bullying. ShortCircuit-XT is nearing its initial release. Once that happens, I won’t even need Bliss.

It’s you non-Linux using DiscoDSP users that have Challenge/Response built into your DiscoDSP plugins that I feel sorry for. My serial can’t be revoked—yours can.

[BBFG#]

Well, all of this is now enough to cement the idea in me to delete all demo and free plugins from them and move on. Thanks for and to the honesty of experiences here I'm happy to have not become a customer.

[Robmobius]

They're handling this very poorly. I mean, they couldn't screw this up even more, right? At least they haven't sent out threatening emails to people telling them if they don't take down their posts they might ban you from their services.
*checks email*
OH WAIT.

Are you serious or joking? Did you get a threatening email from DiscoDSP?

Yes. They want me to take down the post where I show the price of my update because apparently, that was a "private offer". The offer was "tailored specifically for you, based on our mutual understanding of confidentiality and trust in our business relationship."

Didn't ask for one, I haven't been communicating with them, so...

Then it ends with:

"Please understand that if the post is not removed, we may have to consider further actions, including a potential suspension of your services with us."

Holy sheeeeeet!!! That's unbelievable.

[anoise]

Is there any synth out there that is replicating the Nord Lead FM sound or comes very close to it? That's the only thing I use Discovery Pro for. With the high price and strange behavior of this company, I may have to find an alternative. I wish u-he would add an FM knob to Hive 2...lol

[Teksonik]

Yet there are those who have no problem with C/R authentication, which I simply cannot understand—problems like these keep cropping up over and over and yet people never learn.

Oh stop. I've never lost a C/R protected plugin.

Sure if it was a rainbows and unicorns world all plugins would require only a simple serial number but we live in a place called reality and that's simply not going to happen.

I get your crusade as I have a similar hatred for CP methods that require the installation of third party software.

But while I can easily function without plugins that require iLok or CodeMeter I simply could not live without plugins that require C/R.

There are just too many and too few quality plugins (to me) that are serial number only.

On the subject of the threat from DiscoDSP, I think it's time for George and his A.I. (Actual Ignorance) robots to get a time out at KVR.

[dayjob]

I wish u-he would add an FM knob to Hive 2...lol

zebra does tons of FM all day long. and it sounds incredible. just gotta spend some time w/it.

[audiojunkie]

Yet there are those who have no problem with C/R authentication, which I simply cannot understand—problems like these keep cropping up over and over and yet people never learn.

Oh stop. I've never lost a C/R protected plugin.

Sure if it was a rainbows and unicorns world all plugins would require only a simple serial number but we live in a place called reality and that's simply not going to happen.

I get your crusade as I have a similar hatred for CP methods that require the installation of third party software.

But while I can easily function without plugins that require iLok or CodeMeter I simply could not live without plugins that require C/R.

There are just too many and too few quality plugins (to me) that are serial number only.

On the subject of the threat from DiscoDSP, I think it's time for George and his A.I. (Actual Ignorance) robots to get a time out at KVR.

There is an open source developer phrase that drive users and bug reporters crazy on Github and elsewhere, “Works for me, won’t fix”. My point is: YOU have never lost a C/R plugin. But that doesn’t mean the problem doesn’t exist and affect others. It simply means you haven’t experienced it yourself, so you don’t consider to be as big of a problem as others feel it is. You’ve been here on KVR a long time, and I know that you know that there have been many that have been burned by C/R. I know that I’m a rarity, but I have been able to use just plugins using serial numbers or keyfiles…….so far. I admit that it is hard to find exactly what I need—especially when it comes to virtual guitar plugins. But I’ve built up a decent toolbox of plugins. I may end up having to use some C/R plugins someday, but I hope not.

[BBFG#]

Yet there are those who have no problem with C/R authentication, which I simply cannot understand—problems like these keep cropping up over and over and yet people never learn.

Oh stop. I've never lost a C/R protected plugin.

Sure if it was a rainbows and unicorns world all plugins would require only a simple serial number but we live in a place called reality and that's simply not going to happen.

I get your crusade as I have a similar hatred for CP methods that require the installation of third party software.

But while I can easily function without plugins that require iLok or CodeMeter I simply could not live without plugins that require C/R.

There are just too many and too few quality plugins (to me) that are serial number only.

On the subject of the threat from DiscoDSP, I think it's time for George and his A.I. (Actual Ignorance) robots to get a time out at KVR.

There is an open source developer phrase that drive users and bug reporters crazy on Github and elsewhere, “Works for me, won’t fix”. My point is: YOU have never lost a C/R plugin. But that doesn’t mean the problem doesn’t exist and affect others. It simply means you haven’t experienced it yourself, so you don’t consider to be as big of a problem as others feel it is. You’ve been here on KVR a long time, and I know that you know that there have been many that have been burned by C/R. I know that I’m a rarity, but I have been able to use just plugins using serial numbers or keyfiles…….so far. I admit that it is hard to find exactly what I need—especially when it comes to virtual guitar plugins. But I’ve built up a decent toolbox of plugins. I may end up having to use some C/R plugins someday, but I hope not.

MusicLab is a Keyfile.

[rasmusklump]

I had many unusable projects in the past because of not getting new response codes after a new windows install.

[MrJubbly]

Serial makes no difference from C/R.... Your serial can be revoked (blacklisted) for next update, and you are stuck with the version you got.

It actually does make a huge difference. The difference is that you don't have to worry about running out of authorizations and begging the company for more.

Software developers are out of control.

Imagine being at the whims of a hardware manufacturer, after you had already paid for their gear. And yet still had to regularly email them, to beg them to allow you to turn it on , just to actually use your hardware, lest it be rendered 'completely non-functioning.' Not to mention, praying that said (borderline-abusive) company didn't subsequently go out of business, or arbitrarily decide to close down communication with their customers, rendering prior purchased product, as little more than expensive dead lemon.

Why should it really be any different what the medium is, between software and hardware? The companies still got paid the same way. If anything, the software developers already have a huge benefit over hardware manufacturers, since when a software unit is sold to a customer, nothing physical is produced or exchanged, so no additional costs incurred for the company. If anything, software licences these days, are usually automatically generated at the point of sale (or confirmation thereof). So, after development of the software, the company barely has to lift a finger when generating sales.

DRM for software needs a real independent regulator, to investigate what some of these developers are doing with their software and how they are treating paying customers. An arbiter with legal powers to determine what is truly fair/unfair for genuine paying customers.

Software developers have had things all their own way (oftentimes, only in their favour, not the customers') for FAR too long now. There's a huge disparity of power dynamic and fairness between the business and customer in many software licence exchanges. And the bad examples are also tarnishing the industry as a whole for even the good developers, who don't deserve to be associated with such practices.

It shouldn't be like this.

[Touch The Universe]

There should be a business that deals only with vsti instruments and effects that houses everybody's downloads and registration stuff, so only one place is needed to go to redownload everything, saving developers time and for legacy if the developer shuts down. That might be a good business idea.

[vertibration]

There should be a business that deals only with vsti instruments and effects that houses everybody's downloads and registration stuff, so only one place is needed to go to redownload everything, saving developers time and for legacy if the developer shuts down. That might be a good business idea.

Sure, and when it gets hacked, everyones downloads go down the tubes. Wonderful plan