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glokraw wrote: Thu Jan 25, 2024 1:12 pm
swilow11 wrote: Thu Jan 25, 2024 1:36 am I also really dislike having multiple copies of things in different locations.
😀
You should be able to create symbolic links from the wavetables in your Serum folder
to what is expected by Pigments. In a pair of filemanagers, open one to the (empty) Pigments folder, and from the second manager, select and drag all the wavetable content, and select the link option, instead of copy or move. Your OS may have a different term for 'link'. I do this so Hive, Vital, Surge and Synthmaster One all can access the same content without duplicates.
Might have to un-nest folder collections if Pigments file browsing is extremely lame.
Cheers
Yeah, i can do this with Hive2, Vital, Phase Plant, but cannot figure out a way to do it with Pigments. It (afaik) only has an import wavetables function, as opposed to a location adding function. Very annoying, but you've inspired me to verify this so cheers 👍

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swilow11 wrote: Thu Jan 25, 2024 11:18 pm
glokraw wrote: Thu Jan 25, 2024 1:12 pm
swilow11 wrote: Thu Jan 25, 2024 1:36 am I also really dislike having multiple copies of things in different locations.
😀
You should be able to create symbolic links from the wavetables in your Serum folder
to what is expected by Pigments. In a pair of filemanagers, open one to the (empty) Pigments folder, and from the second manager, select and drag all the wavetable content, and select the link option, instead of copy or move. Your OS may have a different term for 'link'. I do this so Hive, Vital, Surge and Synthmaster One all can access the same content without duplicates.
Might have to un-nest folder collections if Pigments file browsing is extremely lame.
Cheers
Yeah, i can do this with Hive2, Vital, Phase Plant, but cannot figure out a way to do it with Pigments. It (afaik) only has an import wavetables function, as opposed to a location adding function. Very annoying, but you've inspired me to verify this so cheers 👍
Yeah you can - just add your symbolically linked folder to /Library/Arturia/Samples/Pigments/User (Mac but I assume there is an equivalent on Windows)

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Had a little snoop, and found
C:\ProgramData\Arturia\Samples\Pigments has folders for Factory, Misc, and User, so things
should be easy to link up.
Cheers

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mholloway wrote: Thu Jan 25, 2024 5:57 pm
briefcasemanx wrote: Thu Jan 25, 2024 5:21 pm
enCiphered wrote: Thu Jan 25, 2024 1:14 pm So, is Pigments 5 now the best synth on the planet? The one to rule them all?
Not until they make the analog engine sound better. I think they purposely gimped it because they think it might cannibalize V Collection sales.
Oh give me a break. They did no so such thing, and have no such concern.
Prove it.

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briefcasemanx wrote: Fri Jan 26, 2024 11:38 am
mholloway wrote: Thu Jan 25, 2024 5:57 pm
briefcasemanx wrote: Thu Jan 25, 2024 5:21 pm
enCiphered wrote: Thu Jan 25, 2024 1:14 pm So, is Pigments 5 now the best synth on the planet? The one to rule them all?
Not until they make the analog engine sound better. I think they purposely gimped it because they think it might cannibalize V Collection sales.
Oh give me a break. They did no so such thing, and have no such concern.
Prove it.
This is the worst trolling attempt I've seen today

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briefcasemanx wrote: Fri Jan 26, 2024 11:38 am
mholloway wrote: Thu Jan 25, 2024 5:57 pm
briefcasemanx wrote: Thu Jan 25, 2024 5:21 pm
enCiphered wrote: Thu Jan 25, 2024 1:14 pm So, is Pigments 5 now the best synth on the planet? The one to rule them all?
Not until they make the analog engine sound better. I think they purposely gimped it because they think it might cannibalize V Collection sales.
Oh give me a break. They did no so such thing, and have no such concern.
Prove it.
That's not how it works. You claim something, you prove it. Not the other way around.

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I really like this synth, mainly because of the squencer and how easy the synth is to use.

Talking about sequencer, i dont get it, why big synths developers of likes phaseplant, serum, vital, dune, hive, rapid don't add such easy to use sequencer. Making sequences is a pain in those synths (except in hive its acceptable) while it suppose to be fun.

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I had decided not to buy new synths years ago, but Pigments' sequencer lured me in...
...and I'm glad it did, such a fine synth!
Lbdunequest wrote: Fri Jan 26, 2024 9:03 pm Talking about sequencer, i dont get it, why big synths developers of likes phaseplant, serum, vital, dune, hive, rapid don't add such easy to use sequencer. Making sequences is a pain in those synths (except in hive its acceptable) while it suppose to be fun.
My thoughts exactly (except that I don't use Hive's sequencer either).

Too often we're left with a choice between:
- powerful dedicated sequencer plugins (e.g. Seqund) that sadly don't have immediate access to synth parameters
- built-in sequencers that are lacking in features like polymetrics and probabilistics, and are cumbersome to use

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chk071 wrote: Fri Jan 26, 2024 12:40 pm
briefcasemanx wrote: Fri Jan 26, 2024 11:38 am
mholloway wrote: Thu Jan 25, 2024 5:57 pm
briefcasemanx wrote: Thu Jan 25, 2024 5:21 pm
enCiphered wrote: Thu Jan 25, 2024 1:14 pm So, is Pigments 5 now the best synth on the planet? The one to rule them all?
Not until they make the analog engine sound better. I think they purposely gimped it because they think it might cannibalize V Collection sales.
Oh give me a break. They did no so such thing, and have no such concern.
Prove it.
That's not how it works. You claim something, you prove it. Not the other way around.
Exactly. Claiming trolling is not an argument. I'm have no doubt that software package developers leave gaps in their range to allow for 3rd party upgrades. Like macOS' mails terrible search function. They could make it feature packed so there's no need to outsource but they also want the 3rd party money. In this case Arturia's '3rd party' product would be their own.
MacOS Ventura | Logic Pro 10 |

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Looks good to me. What is a bit of a pity, that you can't add more engine tabs and filters. It is fixed to three parallel generators and 2 filters.... Why?? Can add up to 8 generators and filters in avenger for example.

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Is anyone who hasn't purchased the Explorations bundle packs (particularly Expressive Explorations) seeing them in the in-app sound store in Pigments or Analog Lab? I'm not seeing them in either. If you're seeing them what plugin format are you using (as in VST3 etc.)? Or do you see them only in standalone?

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Ou_Tis wrote: Sun Jan 28, 2024 12:11 am Is anyone who hasn't purchased the Explorations bundle packs (particularly Expressive Explorations) seeing them in the in-app sound store in Pigments or Analog Lab? I'm not seeing them in either. If you're seeing them what plugin format are you using (as in VST3 etc.)? Or do you see them only in standalone?
I see it in the VST3, but the store had to refresh itself first

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concealed identity wrote: Sun Jan 28, 2024 12:16 am
Ou_Tis wrote: Sun Jan 28, 2024 12:11 am Is anyone who hasn't purchased the Explorations bundle packs (particularly Expressive Explorations) seeing them in the in-app sound store in Pigments or Analog Lab? I'm not seeing them in either. If you're seeing them what plugin format are you using (as in VST3 etc.)? Or do you see them only in standalone?
I see it in the VST3, but the store had to refresh itself first
Is there a way to make the store refresh itself??

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Ou_Tis wrote: Sun Jan 28, 2024 12:18 am
concealed identity wrote: Sun Jan 28, 2024 12:16 am
Ou_Tis wrote: Sun Jan 28, 2024 12:11 am Is anyone who hasn't purchased the Explorations bundle packs (particularly Expressive Explorations) seeing them in the in-app sound store in Pigments or Analog Lab? I'm not seeing them in either. If you're seeing them what plugin format are you using (as in VST3 etc.)? Or do you see them only in standalone?
I see it in the VST3, but the store had to refresh itself first
Is there a way to make the store refresh itself??
I'll have to check next time I'm on my PC if there's a way to do it manually, but for me it was automatic after staying on the store page for a few seconds (or maybe I was browsing the store for a bit and returned to the main page). It wasn't immediate for me, so maybe you need to give it time to trigger some sort of check.

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Hanz Meyzer wrote: Sat Jan 27, 2024 5:23 am Looks good to me. What is a bit of a pity, that you can't add more engine tabs and filters. It is fixed to three parallel generators and 2 filters.... Why?? Can add up to 8 generators and filters in avenger for example.
What's your point?
Avenger limited to 8
(why can't they add 50?),
so it's also limited, isn't it?!
I didn't know that Pigment
is supposed to be an emu/copy
of Avenger.

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