Most-tolerated Genre?

[vurt]

Easy for you if you never leave the house.

you do know headphones exist?

[audiojunkie]

Fugazi? LCD Soundsystem? I’m curious where the genre starts and ends.

I'm not sure there are any American Post Punk bands, are there? I mean, from back in the day. Like most worthwhile music, it's an English/European thing. Maybe Wall of Voodoo would qualify? Perhaps Minimal Man, too? Definitely not Fugazi and LCD Soundsystem only in the worst way (I find their stuff universally awful).

That said, Wikipedia seems to think there are a few.

That's because you're a poseur non-musician!

My facade is just a fake
Shock, horror, no escape
Sensationalism for the feed
Caricatures are what you breed, breed, breed, breed, breed

I am a poseur and I don't care
I like to make people stare

Written by Poly Styrene in 1977. Prescient or f**king what?

Nihilism: it never goes out of style!

XTC at their very finest -

There certainly aren’t as many post punk American bands. I would say that the closest would be:

Television
Devo
Pere Ubu
Cabaret Voltaire
Ministry
Swans
Suicide
Lydia Lunch
Romeo Void
Talking Heads

And probably a few others

But undoubtedly, most are from Europe.

[vurt]

cabaret voltaire aren't american.
sheffield, uk.

[Introspective]

My most tolerated genre is a meta genre, it's minimal, but that as applied to any genre, not some specific kind of music. Satie is minimal, Hawtin is minimal, Buddy Guy is minimal. If I'm not there for it specifically, then loudness and minimal work hand in hand. The more minimal the music is, the louder I can tolerate it.

This is also a very good answer.

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[audiojunkie]

cabaret voltaire aren't american.
sheffield, uk.

I thought that was the case, but when I looked for a list of American Post-Punk bands, Cabaret Voltaire was listed. I shrugged, thought, “I must have been wrong all these years”, and without another thought added it to the list.

With humility, I bow to your superior knowledge.

Somewhere I had a list of original 80s and 90s Russian post punk bands that I wanted to explore, but I can’t find it.

[vurt]

superior knowledge = saw synth brittania documentary

[audiojunkie]

superior knowledge = saw synth brittania documentary

It works for me!

[BONES]

There certainly aren’t as many post punk American bands. I would say that the closest would be:

Television
Devo
Pere Ubu
Cabaret Voltaire
Ministry
Swans
Suicide
Lydia Lunch
Romeo Void
Talking Heads

Of those, I'd say Romeo Void are probably the only ones who qualify. Ministry used to be sad Pop before they went full-on Industrial Metal. The Cabs, apart from being British, were also Industrial, following the same trajectory as many Industrial bands into electronic music. The others would be either New Wave or Avant Garde/Experimental Rock. Of course, being New Wave or Avant Garde doesn't preclude you from also being Post Punk but Post Punk isn't the first genre I'd label them with.

I'd loosely define Post Punk as music that isn't Goth but you could play at a Goth club without the little darlings running screaming from the venue.

[Frantz]

There certainly aren’t as many post punk American bands. I would say that the closest would be:

Television
Devo
Pere Ubu
Cabaret Voltaire
Ministry
Swans
Suicide
Lydia Lunch
Romeo Void
Talking Heads

As previously mentioned, cross off Cabaret Voltaire from the list.

You can add:
Tuxedomoon
Crash Course In Science

[BONES]

Interesting. Tuxedomoon was always lumped in with Prog Rock shit in the record shop I used to go to, so I never bothered with them. Listening to a few things now, they are kind of like an American take on Eyeless in Gaza. Crash Course in Science is a bit too electronic for me to think of them as Post Punk. Also boring and repetitive.

[Introspective]

I f**king hate that I can STILL listen to f**king "New Age" SHIT like Kitaro and f**king NARADA and Giles Reaves and Biran f**king Eno and FOR THE LOVE OF ALL THAT'S HOLY TANGERINE GOD-DAMN-DREAM from the MOTHER-LOVING PRIVATE MUSIC ERA (!) and be thinking

"Oh, hey, this is nice, maybe I should try writing something in this style, but more modern--"

NO YOU f**king SHOULDN'T, you twit! This is bogus cheesy 90s CRAP and you don't deserve to keep listening to it it AND YET YOU DO YOU HUMAN EQUIVALENT OF A PARTICIPATION TROPHY now get back to writing something fierce and electronic and driving and dark and TURN OFF THIS DRIVEL!

...But I like it!

SHUT UP!

[audiojunkie]

I f**king hate that I can STILL listen to f**king "New Age" SHIT like Kitaro and f**king NARADA and Giles Reaves and Biran f**king Eno and FOR THE LOVE OF ALL THAT'S HOLY TANGERINE GOD-DAMN-DREAM from the MOTHER-LOVING PRIVATE MUSIC ERA (!) and be thinking

"Oh, hey, this is nice, maybe I should try writing something in this style, but more modern--"

NO YOU f**king SHOULDN'T, you twit! This is bogus cheesy 90s CRAP and you don't deserve to keep listening to it it AND YET YOU DO YOU HUMAN EQUIVALENT OF A PARTICIPATION TROPHY now get back to writing something fierce and electronic and driving and dark and TURN OFF THIS DRIVEL!

...But I like it!

SHUT UP!

An old man's advice to the young:

Music style and preference has a lot to do with time/place/mood. There's music for driving, music for dancing, music for getting pumped up, music for relaxing/studying/focus, etc... What I listen to largely depends on what I'm doing, and where I'm doing it, and what mood I'm in. Don't feel bad about what you like. I have an 800+ song spotify playlist that I designed specifically for listening to while I'm at work, or when relaxing. It is composed of Dream Pop, Shoegaze, Indie, Trip Hop, Downtempo, Ethereal, Dub, Post Rock, etc... It's all lower tempo stuff that I like. I play it in the background and have it running all day at work, like a radio station on the over head of a bookstore. It's essentially Elevator music (Lift music), but it's bands that I personally like and respect. Do you, and don't worry about what anyone else thinks--life's too short. Enjoy your David Sylvian and Enigma, and a big middle finger to everyone who harasses you.

[Introspective]

Enjoy your David Sylvian and Enigma, and a big middle finger to everyone who harasses you.

<looks downtrodden>

I do enjoy them.

[Frantz]

Tuxedomoon was always lumped in with Prog Rock shit in the record shop I used to go to, so I never bothered with them. Listening to a few things now, they are kind of like an American take on Eyeless in Gaza. Crash Course in Science is a bit too electronic for me to think of them as Post Punk. Also boring and repetitive.

Tuxedomoon was frustratingly difficult to pin down. Every release I bought by them sounded completely different spanning from edgy, lo-fi garage, synth punk (circa 1979) to pretentious, jazz/neo-classical (circa 1986). Adding to the confusion, they kept switching up singers and did a lot of instrumentals with no vocals.

Crash Course in Science were totally obscure. They only put out one EP in 1981 which received no distribution. I found out about them recently on Spotify. I agree they are repetitive. I think a couple of tracks are great but most are pretty boring.

[audiojunkie]

<looks downtrodden>

I do enjoy them.

Good! My 1600+ CD collection covers everything from Rage Against The Machine and Marilyn Manson to the Carpenters and The Tabernacle Choir.......and everything in between. *whispering* I even have two or three country albums!

It's all good!