Sad state of Native Instruments

[nanostream]

Damn, I just bought a bunch of different Reaktor blocks and installing and using them has been both simple and fun. Something is up here for sure

Don’t worry. Blocks are kinda dead, but the existing ones are still amazing and will continue to be so. Just get all the Toybox packs and you’re good for a while

Yep, that's what I did- got the Atomic Pack and made some sweet sounds last night. Their products are so cheap atm, I'm going to have to get some more. Any recommendations? It's hard to tell if the packs contain duplicate blocks, and the lists are freaking massive so difficult to assess.

Let me close the door real quick, I think there’s been an accident at the asylum again.

I’d get the Nano pack in any case, incredible bang for the buck and tons of useful blocks. It’s the most complete pack from them. I also love the Tangle pack, the oscillator and filter are simply great—but there’s probably a bit of an overlap with the Atomic pack (I think the only pack I don’t own). The Synth pack is worth it just for the Piano Roll block alone, if you need one.

[Milkman]

I always appreciate how "the sad state of NI" - a thread created for frustrated NI customers to discuss this - always morphs into "ok ok ok, now that those icky, basically mentally ill critics are done, lets talk about THE LATEST DEALS"

lmao

[Shadow Of Death]

I had to literally dump Battery. Not to mention they discontinued 2 synths

Battery doesn't work on M1?

For like 10 plus months it was dead as a door nail. I can’t recall exactly what version.. I asked for help on the forums. Some really rude dude called Dragon something was so rude and arrogant I vowed to never buy from them again.

[enroe]

I always appreciate how "the sad state of NI" - a thread created for frustrated NI customers to discuss this - always morphs into "ok ok ok, now that those icky, basically mentally ill critics are done, lets talk about THE LATEST DEALS"

lmao

Well, the problems with “software activations” are not just an NI
problem. All providers of commercial libraries and plugins struggle
with exactly this problem:

On the one hand, they want to offer their software to everyone,
but on the other hand, they also want the software not to be
easily copied using an unbreakable security system - and in
doing so, they limit its usability for users.

With software that is older but is still used by many people, this
always leads to activation problems. A lot of time has to be
invested in telephone calls, queries, etc.

Everyone has to decide for themselves what “activation risk” they
want to take and how “future-proof” their studio equipment as a
whole should be.

[osiris]

A simple we're not moving ahead with development of this product but here's an authorization you can use would have been nice if they cared about customers. I say this without knowing how NI auth structure works. But they did this for Albino and they did this for Alchemy so it can't be THAT HARD.

[Choikdoi]

Confused about the Super 8 Reaktor vs standalone thing again. Not that I put much stock into anything Plugin Boutique says, but on a recent YouTube video of theirs from 12 days ago, someone asked how they were using a VST version, saying "Isn't Super 8 a Reaktor instrument? I see yours is standalone...." and the reply from PB was "It's both now ". Did anything change again recently?

[aMUSEd]

Confused about the Super 8 Reaktor vs standalone thing again. Not that I put much stock into anything Plugin Boutique says, but on a recent YouTube video of theirs from 12 days ago, someone asked how they were using a VST version, saying "Isn't Super 8 a Reaktor instrument? I see yours is standalone...." and the reply from PB was "It's both now ". Did anything change again recently?

No it’s just Reaktor now

[Mr D]

Didn't read the whole thread, but if there was ever a plugin suffering from "technical dept", it must be Kontakt!

That horrible little interface is unbearable, it was unbearable already 10 years ago.

I guess there are so many sample library instruments built on top of Kontakt, there's no way they can change anything. A victim of its own success!

[chk071]

Confused about the Super 8 Reaktor vs standalone thing again. Not that I put much stock into anything Plugin Boutique says, but on a recent YouTube video of theirs from 12 days ago, someone asked how they were using a VST version, saying "Isn't Super 8 a Reaktor instrument? I see yours is standalone...." and the reply from PB was "It's both now ". Did anything change again recently?

The second version (called "Super 8 R2") was a VST3 standalone, but, they discontinued that version, and only support the (first) Reaktor version.

BTW, if you only have the R2 version in your library, contact their support, and they will more than likely provide you with the Reaktor version (NFR then).

[Choikdoi]

No it’s just Reaktor now

The second version (called "Super 8 R2") was a VST3 standalone, but, they discontinued that version, and only support the (first) Reaktor version.

Yeah, I was aware that it once was a standalone and got discontinued. It was just that the PB video using the standalone version is only 12 days old and the comment on there from Joshua Casper is "it's both now", as opposed to, "it used to be both".

[LFO8]

Talking about standalone; I wish NI (and some other developers) offer us to skip installing the standalone apps for software like Kontakt, Guitar Rig etc.

I have a DAW I run the plugins in 100% of the time and have now interrest in ever using the standalone app on my computer.

[gaggle of hermits]

you need to keep some of them around as the plugins don't have all the features. batch resave isn't available in the Kontakt plugin anymore, for example.

I often skip the standalones where that's an option from other devs, however...and then installed a few after the fact after finding the same kind of problem as above.

[chk071]

No it’s just Reaktor now

The second version (called "Super 8 R2") was a VST3 standalone, but, they discontinued that version, and only support the (first) Reaktor version.

Yeah, I was aware that it once was a standalone and got discontinued. It was just that the PB video using the standalone version is only 12 days old and the comment on there from Joshua Casper is "it's both now", as opposed to, "it used to be both".

It's definitely "it used to be both".

[LFO8]

you need to keep some of them around as the plugins don't have all the features. batch resave isn't available in the Kontakt plugin anymore, for example.

I often skip the standalones where that's an option from other devs, however...and then installed a few after the fact after finding the same kind of problem as above.

Good point and something to keep in mind for those that need those functions. I however don't have any need for any of those functions. Would just be a nice and considerate option to have to exclude the standalone apps in the installers.

[claesbjo]

Do NI’s instruments report latency to host? Doesn’t look like it. When you render an i strument ie battery 4, the result comes out 256 samples late.