MCenter ELI5?
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- KVRian
- 851 posts since 24 Mar, 2021
I'm kinda waiting a video from Chandler, cause i don't get the difference between a mid-side processing and what this plugin should do, and where is supposed to be useful
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- KVRian
- 1281 posts since 3 Jan, 2020
What is generally referred to as mid-side is actually the sum (mid) and difference (side) between the left and right channel.
Signals, that are in phase between the left and right channel are generally perceived to be in the center, and when you sum two waves that are in phase, they double in amplitude, where as the waves that are out of phase cancel each other. That's why the sum is similar to the mid of the signal. Subtracting the left and right signal (difference) then cancels out waves that are in phase and doubles those that are out of phase, which gives you the side of the signal.
However, this approach doesn't always work. For example, if you pan a signal hard-right and then sum the channels, it will tell you there's a signal in the center, since there's nothing on the left channel to cancel the audio in the in the right channel.
MCenter seems to employ a more intelligent way to separate the mid and center parts of a signal, but it doesn't really say how, as far as I can tell.
Signals, that are in phase between the left and right channel are generally perceived to be in the center, and when you sum two waves that are in phase, they double in amplitude, where as the waves that are out of phase cancel each other. That's why the sum is similar to the mid of the signal. Subtracting the left and right signal (difference) then cancels out waves that are in phase and doubles those that are out of phase, which gives you the side of the signal.
However, this approach doesn't always work. For example, if you pan a signal hard-right and then sum the channels, it will tell you there's a signal in the center, since there's nothing on the left channel to cancel the audio in the in the right channel.
MCenter seems to employ a more intelligent way to separate the mid and center parts of a signal, but it doesn't really say how, as far as I can tell.
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- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 851 posts since 24 Mar, 2021
Thank you very much for the explanation, it's very clear!
- KVRist
- 298 posts since 26 May, 2016 from Byron Bay, Australia
Just tried MCenter on a full mix just before the output limiter with the "Dynamic stereo control" preset and it seemed to glue the mix together.
I think its very good. Thanks Vojtech.
Spencer
I think its very good. Thanks Vojtech.
Spencer
- KVRian
- 1451 posts since 4 Oct, 2012 from Utah
Quick overview of some of the features
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Hey, I'm Eurydice(Izzy for short) - she/her
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- KVRer
- 7 posts since 27 Jul, 2020
Just read about Leapwing's CenterOne, as this is obviously.... " " " " " " " " INSPIRED " " " " " " " ... by that plugin *WINKY*WINKY*NUDGY*NUDGY*
https://www.leapwingaudio.com/blog/lcr-vs-mid-side/
https://www.leapwingaudio.com/product/centerone/
https://www.leapwingaudio.com/blog/lcr-vs-mid-side/
https://www.leapwingaudio.com/product/centerone/
