d16 SigMund v 2 released

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Uncle E wrote: Wed Mar 13, 2024 5:34 am
HAL76 wrote: Wed Mar 13, 2024 12:09 am Preset from the ballpark ....
Thanks! Interesting! Here's a preset I made for emulating the Keeley Andy Timmons delay:Keeley.zip
Pretty basic, butI like it simple :)

Thank you for the Delay, great approach!

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Lads & gents, one thing seems to be worth noticing: Sigmund is not your every-day-delay. It offers experimentation off your usual paths, in an easily understandable manner, and that's why it is not only inspiring but also rewarding. Fast.

Blue Cat's delay offers this and much more, too, but needs a lot of 'clicking' (due to a respectable amount of additional features).

And then there is Fabfilter's Timeless 3, which excels in modulation options, filter design and ... erm ... two sorts of the holy Ping Pong.

Best advice for delay nerds: get them all. :D

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Put Sigmund 2 behind Nepheton 2. They pair so well together. :tu:
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elassi wrote: Wed Mar 13, 2024 4:14 pm
And then there is Fabfilter's Timeless 3, which excels in modulation options, filter design and ... erm ... two sorts of the holy Ping Pong.

Best advice for delay nerds: get them all. :D
I think the tone of the original post about ping pong in Sigmund ("Uninstalled') was unfortunate. Had it been milder then we could've had a rational convo on the merits. Also unfortunate is mention of, and exhortations to buy, other plugins -- that's a red herring and doesn't imply anything nice. I have Repeater and a few other delays that do ping pong and I know Sigmund can do it also. The question is whether it'd be better if it did it at the touch of a button and while I don't care a ton, it seems totally doable to me and consistent with the product concept so why the heck not? The dancing around that question is what I object to.

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At KvR we don't discuss purchasing itself.

We discuss why not purchase though we don't need to.

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elassi wrote: Wed Mar 13, 2024 5:38 pm At KvR we don't discuss purchasing itself.

We discuss why not purchase though we don't need to.
I'm actually helping with that: "Sigmund 3: now with ping pong button -- instabuy!"

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Any plugin called Sigmund should focus on Freudian stuff, so no need for pre-delay (which would be more suited to a plugin called Jacques, as it allows proper emulation of mirror delay) let alone ping pong (a practice linked to tennis envy).

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Tennis Envy! :clap: :lol:

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elassi wrote: Wed Mar 13, 2024 5:38 pm We discuss why not purchase though we don't need to.
It's a support group. Too Many Plugins Anonymous.

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Thanks to this thread i am now a proud upgradee 8)

First impressions:

I, too, would like a skin that is softer on the eyes.
And I'm not a fan of all caps labels (nor the skeuomorph look for what looks to be an original design).
The GUI seems easy to grasp though, and that is the main thing :tu:

I like the Tap buttons feature.

I like the presets (glad D16 added some MJ :)) although i must say i find this delay inviting to roll your own Sig's.
Thanks, Uncle E, for the preset - never thought I'd own a boutique halo ;)

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I upgraded first day. Sigmund is one of those plugins that can add subtle space around a sound while not losing the definition of the original sound. Bypass it and you're like, WTF! I also really dig the 80s hi-fi stereo look.

Now, thoughts in my head - should I upgrade to Trash....? Doesn't seem like a no-brainer like Sigmund 2.

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cptgone wrote: Wed Mar 13, 2024 6:27 pm Any plugin called Sigmund should focus on Freudian stuff, so no need for pre-delay (which would be more suited to a plugin called Jacques
All joking aside, make no mistake though: Sigmund is one of the handful or so delay-plugins that have a dedicated pre-delay per delay channel (i.e. eight in total for Sigmund (4x2))

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hurricaneaudiolab wrote: Wed Mar 13, 2024 7:52 pm I upgraded first day. Sigmund is one of those plugins that can add subtle space around a sound while not losing the definition of the original sound. Bypass it and you're like, WTF! I also really dig the 80s hi-fi stereo look.

Now, thoughts in my head - should I upgrade to Trash....? Doesn't seem like a no-brainer like Sigmund 2.
Trash and Sigmund are the two before me as well and I'm much more inclined to go with Sigmund. Trash to me seems like it's lost lots of features and the UI isn't super awesome looking either. In terms of a solid developer too I just feel so much more inclined to d16 as they've recently updated the drum synths and phoscyon and really brought something new to the table and addressed issues. Whereas Izotope is now one of the NI properties owned by some SF private equity company and the whole rollout seems botched. I just don't get good vibes, no offense to folks who worked on it.

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jens wrote: Wed Mar 13, 2024 8:03 pm Sigmund is one of the handful or so delay-plugins that have a dedicated pre-delay per delay channel (i.e. eight in total for Sigmund (4x2))
Yes, and I needed it for that Keeley preset. It was the only way I could layer 2 sets of hard panned delays AND add chorus to them.

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I downloaded it on Friday and have been playing with it for hours. I never tried Sigmund 1 because of GUI. V2 GUI is equally "hard" on me but I decided to give it a try. I have all Arturia, UAD, NI, Soundtoys U-he, and many other delays.

This tops them easily if not equally. This delay is incredible sounding. It is really like really versatile and you can get even amazing-sounding reverbs with it.

I must admit that once again my prejudice (terrible looking GUI equals terrible sound (silly I know)) almost stopped me from trying this product.

The sound is amazing and I suggest anyone having or looking for delays should at least invest 1 hour and simply trial this. Prepare your wallet though.

One more thing - I have found this delay not only can be "true to the source" in a way it doesn't just artificially destroy it. It can enhance it tremendously. But what I find works best is that you can even add it to the complete drum bus and delays can be tuned so musically that you can end up with "accompanies" results as if delays are sounding in awesome rhythm with the rest of the drums. I am not saying or pointing to a simple "sync" feature of triplets etc. I am pointing to a specific character of a sound being glued to your instruments in a very polished way. You simply need to try it yourself.

Awesome product D16!!!!

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