The problem is that while you're given a "permanent" license to use S1, you lose access to all of the add-ons and content that can no longer be purchased. If you use the add-ons or content in a song, and you want to go back and edit that work, you have to get a subscription. All of your work is held hostage unless you completely use third-party plugins. One of the fun things about S1 was the CTC. Even the batch processing is now behind a paywall.chk071 wrote: Wed Apr 03, 2024 9:50 pm But you only get a perpetual license when you choose the yearly plan, don't you?
Edit: Ok, got it, from the FAQ:
With a Studio One+ Hybrid (previously Studio One+ Annual) subscription, a non-updating perpetual license to Studio One Pro will be awarded at the end of each annual subscription period, providing access in perpetuity to the user’s current version, plus maintenance updates, of Studio One Pro.
Why did you leave Studio One?
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Resonant- Serpent Resonant- Serpent https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=189941
- KVRist
- 433 posts since 23 Sep, 2008
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- KVRist
- 96 posts since 15 Nov, 2005 from Hamburg, Germany
No, it‘s not. Presonus clearly stated that even if you quit you still get all minor updates for the latest version that becomes your "perpetual license". So, if you quit while S1 7.1 is released, you keep this 7.x major release "forever", and you still get all 7.1.x and all 7.x versions.
It is „non-upgrading“ ….
EDIT: Forget what I have written above. It seems that Presonus has changed the FAQ. According to the updated text, only point-point-releases (7.1.x) will be included. That has changed ... I am definitely sure that the FAQ from yesterday was saying something different.
It is „non-upgrading“ ….
EDIT: Forget what I have written above. It seems that Presonus has changed the FAQ. According to the updated text, only point-point-releases (7.1.x) will be included. That has changed ... I am definitely sure that the FAQ from yesterday was saying something different.
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- KVRist
- 410 posts since 9 Oct, 2013 from uk
Right. Thank you. (my emphasis above) - this is important to take on board.Resonant- Serpent wrote: Thu Apr 04, 2024 1:44 am
The problem is that while you're given a "permanent" license to use S1, you lose access to all of the add-ons and content that can no longer be purchased. If you use the add-ons or content in a song, and you want to go back and edit that work, you have to get a subscription. All of your work is held hostage unless you completely use third-party plugins. One of the fun things about S1 was the CTC. Even the batch processing is now behind a paywall.
Let me see if I've got it right - if you decide not to renew your subscription, the perpetual license you received as part of your S1+ Hybrid purchase won't be able to access any of those S1+ only tools/add-ons you used in projects along the way, should you need to revisit them.
What's not clear for me, is if during an active S1+ subscription period there is any chance of separately purchasing these things, so that they will work with your perpetual license, if you decide not to renew. At a guess, its no... obviously, the whole point here for Fender, is to get and keep that subscription train running...
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- KVRAF
- 25017 posts since 12 Jul, 2003 from West Caprazumia
Exactly - very good point - that means anyone who gets drawn in by the promise of the permanent license - which they now offer to make more people subscribe, is not going to use all those subscription things they added to + in order to make more people subscribe.Resonant- Serpent wrote: Thu Apr 04, 2024 1:44 am The problem is that while you're given a "permanent" license to use S1, you lose access to all of the add-ons and content that can no longer be purchased. If you use the add-ons or content in a song, and you want to go back and edit that work, you have to get a subscription.
So if they remove them from the built-in shop in the application, as they should if they really mean that they're subscription-only, the majority of new users isn't going to be able to use them - so the additonal paid-for stuff they original developed in order to increase their income doesn't really have much of a purpose at all anymore.
I really don't think they thought all of this through properly.
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- KVRAF
- 2772 posts since 28 Mar, 2007
The "free" (not free really) perpetual licence can be updated at any time you wish "(Pro-to-Pro)".
https://www.presonus.com/en/studio-one- ... d.html#faq
What options do I have to keep my Hybrid plan's free perpetual license up to date?
You can keep your free, non-updating perpetual license up to date by renewing your Studio One+ Hybrid plan, or you can purchase a standalone Pro perpetual license upgrade (Pro-to-Pro) at any time. Both purchase options are available for users on non-updating Pro licenses and provide perpetual license ownership of the latest version of Studio One Pro.
https://www.presonus.com/en/studio-one- ... d.html#faq
What options do I have to keep my Hybrid plan's free perpetual license up to date?
You can keep your free, non-updating perpetual license up to date by renewing your Studio One+ Hybrid plan, or you can purchase a standalone Pro perpetual license upgrade (Pro-to-Pro) at any time. Both purchase options are available for users on non-updating Pro licenses and provide perpetual license ownership of the latest version of Studio One Pro.
- KVRAF
- 5256 posts since 16 May, 2002 from Brisbane , Australia
What happens on a new computer setup, and where will I be able to download my v6.59999999999999999999999 installer?
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- KVRAF
- 2772 posts since 28 Mar, 2007
In the same way you always did before. Nothing has changed with regards to the perpetual Pro version.Its just that two extra tiers have been added on top.morelia wrote: Thu Apr 04, 2024 8:33 am What happens on a new computer setup, and where will I be able to download my v6.59999999999999999999999 installer?
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- KVRian
- 996 posts since 22 Apr, 2004 from Switzerland
Don't forget that you can get the yearly sub cheaper here:
https://www.jrrshop.com/presonus-sphere ($164.95)
https://www.bestservice.com/en/studio_one_.html (165 €)
https://www.jrrshop.com/presonus-sphere ($164.95)
https://www.bestservice.com/en/studio_one_.html (165 €)
- KVRAF
- 25017 posts since 12 Jul, 2003 from West Caprazumia
This has been quoted at least twice already here in this thread.dellboy wrote: Thu Apr 04, 2024 8:31 am The "free" (not free really) perpetual licence can be updated at any time you wish "(Pro-to-Pro)".
https://www.presonus.com/en/studio-one- ... d.html#faq
What options do I have to keep my Hybrid plan's free perpetual license up to date?
You can keep your free, non-updating perpetual license up to date by renewing your Studio One+ Hybrid plan, or you can purchase a standalone Pro perpetual license upgrade (Pro-to-Pro) at any time. Both purchase options are available for users on non-updating Pro licenses and provide perpetual license ownership of the latest version of Studio One Pro.
Edit: actually I think they changed this somewhat too.
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- KVRAF
- 2772 posts since 28 Mar, 2007
We have inherited a new term - "non-updating perpetual license". (Hybrid plan).
It is to be distinguished from "standalone Pro perpetual license upgrade". (the old licence).
The "non-updating perpetual license" can be "updated" or "upgraded", even though its "non updating". It just needs a push to get it going.
It is to be distinguished from "standalone Pro perpetual license upgrade". (the old licence).
The "non-updating perpetual license" can be "updated" or "upgraded", even though its "non updating". It just needs a push to get it going.
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- KVRAF
- 1945 posts since 25 Feb, 2005
Has the all version 6 updates included tag been amended/included since yesterday ?
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- KVRist
- 433 posts since 23 Sep, 2008
And, no discount for those of us that updated our perpetual licenses recently. Essentially having to pay twice for the update if we wanted to go the subscription model.Blaster wrote: Thu Apr 04, 2024 8:40 am Don't forget that you can get the yearly sub cheaper here:
https://www.jrrshop.com/presonus-sphere ($164.95)
https://www.bestservice.com/en/studio_one_.html (165 €)
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- KVRAF
- 3496 posts since 30 Dec, 2014
Release of Studio One 6.0, 29th of September 2022, humm I've a feeling it's going to be much earlier this year for 7.0.
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