Bargain Center: discussion, gossip, etc.

[Scotty]

The Group Buys are the incentive for me. I have most of what I want from IK including their hardware. The Jam points do come in handy on hardware purchases. I am not dismissing the complaints just indicating where I find value.

I was just checking my acc - using jam points I can get Max 4 for 140eu from 200eu - but guess what.. Nahh
Thanks for letting me know about this crazy upgrade prices system .. over 670gb of files .. omg - - NO - nvme & wifi is going to burn

[elxsound]

The Group Buys are the incentive for me. I have most of what I want from IK including their hardware. The Jam points do come in handy on hardware purchases. I am not dismissing the complaints just indicating where I find value.

I was just checking my acc - using jam points I can get Max 4 for 140eu from 200eu - but guess what.. Nahh
Thanks for letting me know about this crazy upgrade prices system .. over 670gb of files .. omg - - NO - nvme & wifi is going to burn

I look at it as just being that time of year.

It’s true, they offer multiple ways to buy in so there are ways outside of upgrading to get the same content.

It’s just a matter of how badly you “want” something and truthfully, I don’t think they make anything so exclusive someone should be that upset about not having the latest.

[BBFG#]

IK is like that addage of owning a boat. The best two days of it being the day you bought it and the day you got rid of it.

[Aloysius]

For some reason Waves (Audio) springs to mind.

[cdbaksu]

With the useless support, and their inability to update to fix their products, IK has been added to my "do not buy" list and I completely regret giving them my hard earned cash. For shame!

[sqigls]

not to mention the 400 plugins and 4 apps you need to install to use a single plugin.

[midi sentinel]

I just saw this in "Text only"
Total Studio Max 4 at JRRShop for $199

I just checked if there could be a further discount in my IK account, since I have 3.5 Max already, but there is not, except using Jam points.

Welcome to the club

There seems to be a huge number of people who are "buy only once" types of IK customers. We learn our lesson after one purchase.

IK doesn't care about existing customers, their whole pricing scheme is aimed towards new customers.

I have bought in at various points over time, so I was surprised there wasn't even a small discount. I bought Samp!etank2 and SonikSynth many years ago. Later down the road I bought the upgrade to ST3, and then later on I upgraded to Total Studio Max 3.5.

I have bought Total Studio MAX 3.5 at the end of 2022. Last year, I have purchased all the new FX which they released. There is little new left, besides upgrading modo bass and modo drums.

And they want $199 for that.

Price, right now, for new Total Studio MAX 4 is $199. Same like what they are asking for an upgrade.

So yeah, they can go screw themselves.

I rarely have buyer's remorse, but oh boy, do I regret buying this steaming pile of garbage.

Oh well. That's how we learn what to avoid

"They won't give me on a deal on upgrading this product that I don't want to upgrade but researched upgrading."

Such a KVR take.

I can't quite figure out how "He purchased Total MAX 3.5 as well as all FXs that came after it" translated into "don't want to upgrade", but I am sure it all makes sense to you, that's all that matters

[ROTMetro]

I guess the 'I regret buying this steaming pile of garbage' but hey, my reading comprehension could be off.

[LoveEnigma18]

The Ujam $19 newsletter deals at Plugin Boutique are pretty tempting, more so if you have reward tokens. I got Amber 2 and I think it's quite good. May grab a few others while they are hot.

[midi sentinel]

I guess the 'I regret buying this steaming pile of garbage' but hey, my reading comprehension could be off.

"Could be" is quite an understatement.

Regret came at the end, as it usually happens. Shocking, I know.

Anyway, I dislike IK, you dislike KVR, we made our points

[SirKen]

The Ujam $19 newsletter deals at Plugin Boutique are pretty tempting, more so if you have reward tokens. I got Amber 2 and I think it's quite good. May grab a few others while they are hot.

Yeah, their guitars are usable in a busy mix. I still regret not grabbing the full guitar bundle back when it was for $99 as part of a crossgrade deal.

[elxsound]

I guess the 'I regret buying this steaming pile of garbage' but hey, my reading comprehension could be off.

Yeah, it’s off.

If you read from top to bottom… They previously bought a bundle. They saw the upgrade price and now they’re saying it’s a pile of garbage.

So, the price influenced their decision not to upgrade.

Not that they weren’t going to upgrade, and then checked out the price just to complain.

[vstdls]

not to mention the 400 plugins and 4 apps you need to install to use a single plugin.

This. I got 3.5 max a while back, burned some remaining gift card, spent about $80 out of pocket....It's not worth it.

Total Studio Max is such a goddam hassle to manage and use, worse than Akai even, that I don't buy IK anymore.

[sprnva]

It's sad really. I think IK's DSP is great, but the packaging is horrendous. They need to spend more time listening to their customers and less to the bean counters and marketing gurus.

[elxsound]

It's sad really. I think IK's DSP is great, but the packaging is horrendous. They need to spend more time listening to their customers and less to the bean counters and marketing gurus.

UA, IK, and many others all seemingly have the same idea. You can make more money from new customers than old ones. For the old ones, if they're locked into the ecosystem, there's money to be made from them, too.

I doubt the majority of the customers complain as much as we see here, or else they would have changed the model.

We're pretty spoiled with the information we receive about products, prices, and discounts to compare. Anyone posting on KVR is not likely the average customer.