That's a bit like comparing a spanner to a hammer though. You could pound a nail in with a spanner, but it isn't the best way to go about it. And trying to turn a bolt with a hammer is not likely to work at all.felis wrote: Tue Jul 09, 2024 9:16 pm
If I'd put Pigments VA up against OB-1, Pigments would sound absolutely wimpy and gutless.
OB-1 can be a rock crusher.![]()
GForce OB-1
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- KVRAF
- 9111 posts since 28 Apr, 2013
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- KVRAF
- 1706 posts since 25 Jul, 2009
They are both digital trying to emulate analog.BBFG# wrote: Wed Jul 10, 2024 2:01 am That's a bit like comparing a spanner to a hammer though. You could pound a nail in with a spanner, but it isn't the best way to go about it. And trying to turn a bolt with a hammer is not likely to work at all.
I have Pigments and like it, but think that the VA section is the weakest link.
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- KVRAF
- 9111 posts since 28 Apr, 2013
But one does far more than that.felis wrote: Wed Jul 10, 2024 2:31 amThey are both digital trying to emulate analog.BBFG# wrote: Wed Jul 10, 2024 2:01 am That's a bit like comparing a spanner to a hammer though. You could pound a nail in with a spanner, but it isn't the best way to go about it. And trying to turn a bolt with a hammer is not likely to work at all.
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- KVRAF
- 9111 posts since 28 Apr, 2013
So the little hammer on a multi-tool should be compared to a 28oz framing hammer? All I'm saying is it's not really comparative. Maybe compare to the many others that have recently come out as a specific VA. Mariana, LegendHZ, Axxess, etc.
Pigments is in a another class.
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- KVRAF
- 1706 posts since 25 Jul, 2009
Just comparing a VA to another VA.BBFG# wrote: Wed Jul 10, 2024 2:39 am So the little hammer on a multi-tool should be compared to a 28oz framing hammer? All I'm saying is it's not really comparative. Maybe compare to the many others that have recently come out as a specific VA. Mariana, LegendHZ, Axxess, etc.
Pigments is in a another class.
The thought probably wouldn't have even crossed my mind, but someone brought up Pigments on the page before this one, and I responded to it.
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- KVRian
- 753 posts since 22 Aug, 2002 from on the inside looking out
I definitely prefer this to the OBX but haven't heard any of the precursors so I don't know how accurate either is. 2/5 is pretty badchristian f. wrote: Tue Jul 09, 2024 11:30 pmI heard it right away and just actually compared them side by side and I give it a 2/5 for emulation.egbert101 wrote: Tue Jul 09, 2024 6:43 pm Maybe we'll get a comparison video with the original soon. But anyway, the emulation really sounds great to my ears anyway.
The OB 1 is a very simple synth and the power is in the pure and raw sound of the oscillators, filter and the tight snappy envelopes. This emulation offers none of that.
The OBX emulation on the other hand is very good and I even prefer that over the OBX8.
- KVRist
- 176 posts since 21 Aug, 2023
What does "correct" mean? Two OB-1s from 40+ years ago. They modeled it on theirs. Whos knows how differently it's calibrated compared to someone else's OB-1.suthnear wrote: Wed Jul 10, 2024 4:21 pmI definitely prefer this to the OBX but haven't heard any of the precursors so I don't know how accurate either is. 2/5 is pretty badchristian f. wrote: Tue Jul 09, 2024 11:30 pmI heard it right away and just actually compared them side by side and I give it a 2/5 for emulation.egbert101 wrote: Tue Jul 09, 2024 6:43 pm Maybe we'll get a comparison video with the original soon. But anyway, the emulation really sounds great to my ears anyway.
The OB 1 is a very simple synth and the power is in the pure and raw sound of the oscillators, filter and the tight snappy envelopes. This emulation offers none of that.
The OBX emulation on the other hand is very good and I even prefer that over the OBX8.. Since you have one, I would be very interested in knowing whether envelope depth is correct in the plugin. At maximum it does not even get close to opening the filter fully when the cut off knob is low.
- KVRAF
- 3044 posts since 6 Jul, 2013
Erm... you think the one Dave was playing in the OB-1 video they released a week before the plugin was released (hence why we all thought an OB-1 plugin was following along) was, what, imaginary..?
Yes, they have a good selection of classic Oberheim's, don't worry, as well as access to Tom and Marcus and plenty of other friends who also have plenty of vintage classics too...
- KVRAF
- 1746 posts since 3 Nov, 2023
No, not GForce, the poster here. Some people like to crap on things for fun. He may have one of course, and it may need a damn good service. No doubt GForce keep their gear in top shape.beely wrote: Wed Jul 10, 2024 4:46 pmErm... you think the one Dave was playing in the OB-1 video they released a week before the plugin was released (hence why we all thought an OB-1 plugin was following along) was, what, imaginary..?![]()
Yes, they have a good selection of classic Oberheim's, don't worry, as well as access to Tom and Marcus and plenty of other friends who also have plenty of vintage classics too...
Also, it's similar to threads about Monark/Diva/Legend. All were modelled on diff pieces of hardware, so will sound a bit different (but should all be very close really)
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- KVRAF
- 3044 posts since 6 Jul, 2013
Ah I see - sorry, I misunderstood you...
- KVRist
- 176 posts since 21 Aug, 2023
Spot on. For me personally I'm more concerned with is the "flavor" there and it certainly is in the case of their Oberheim stuff.seafire wrote: Wed Jul 10, 2024 4:59 pmNo, not GForce, the poster here. Some people like to crap on things for fun. He may have one of course, and it may need a damn good service. No doubt GForce keep their gear in top shape.beely wrote: Wed Jul 10, 2024 4:46 pmErm... you think the one Dave was playing in the OB-1 video they released a week before the plugin was released (hence why we all thought an OB-1 plugin was following along) was, what, imaginary..?![]()
Yes, they have a good selection of classic Oberheim's, don't worry, as well as access to Tom and Marcus and plenty of other friends who also have plenty of vintage classics too...
Also, it's similar to threads about Monark/Diva/Legend. All were modelled on diff pieces of hardware, so will sound a bit different (but should all be very close really)
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- KVRAF
- 2492 posts since 30 Jun, 2014 from Pacific NW
The UI is just bad (for me). Very hard to read/see - and I almost never say that, and never before about a gforce synth. It's the #1 reason I'm not getting the synth.
#1: poor UI (1440p on a 27" BenQ photographer's display)
#2: CPU hog (practically unusable at my preferred audio settings)
#3: sounds too much like the other gforce synths I have
Wish gforce would innovate and create something original.
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- KVRian
- 759 posts since 13 Apr, 2017
What's up with GForce and CPU hogs? Did they ever say they're going to optimize impOSCar 3? Since i tend to ignore all the CPU hogs i already have and almost never use them, i'm not inclined to buy more.
