Softube CS-80 ? - Model 77 Dual Layer Synth

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jtsterays wrote: Tue Sep 03, 2024 1:08 pm CS80 is overrated.
They need to emulate the JX3P next for Model 83. Now that's underrated! As for Model 81, I prefer the Polysix but wouldn't mind another Jupiter 8. For Model 85, either the Matrix 6 or 12 would be welcome.

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I'm not at all impressed with the sound designers choices for the presets of this synth. This is the first synth from Softube that hasn't made me feel like I need it in my toolbox. The Model 80 and 84 sound much better to my ears then this one. I think the Arturia CS80 V4 will hold me over, I think the Arturia option sounds better. Personally I'd rather see Softube tackle the Alesis Andromeda or other boutique synths vs doing the same thing over and over.
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I think it sounds good but not sure why I'd buy this unless I were a CS-x0 superfan or something. Sorta getting tired of all of the vintage emulations at this point. I bought Model 80 only because I was curious about comparing it directly to my rev4 P5 and got it cheap during one of the many Softube sales. But there doesn't seem to be much about this thing that I couldn't get from one of the 50 billion other synth plugins I already own.

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I am starting to realise this may not be a full cs 80... I for instance can't find the sub oscillators.. Time to go read the manual.

Ahh seems the sub oscillator is just an LFO :)
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DashOfLime wrote: Tue Sep 03, 2024 3:42 pm I think it sounds good but not sure why I'd buy this unless I were a CS-x0 superfan or something. Sorta getting tired of all of the vintage emulations at this point. I bought Model 80 only because I was curious about comparing it directly to my rev4 P5 and got it cheap during one of the many Softube sales. But there doesn't seem to be much about this thing that I couldn't get from one of the 50 billion other synth plugins I already own.
That is how I feel too and this is the first one in the Model series that I won't buy.

It is a very limited and quirky synth with a very narrow sound palette and you really have to Love the sound of it or have fallen for the Hype that it is awesome because it was used in a few Movies.
I am pretty sure they would have used something else in those Movies if they had more to Choose from back then and you can easily get the same sounds or pretty close to it with a Oberheim Emulation.

Btw. How does the Model 80 Compare to your Rev4?

Fun fact: In 1993 You could get them for as low as $300 if you found the right seller.
That is how popular the the CS80 was in the past ;)
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DashOfLime wrote: Tue Sep 03, 2024 3:42 pm I think it sounds good but not sure why I'd buy this unless I were a CS-x0 superfan or something. Sorta getting tired of all of the vintage emulations at this point. I bought Model 80 only because I was curious about comparing it directly to my rev4 P5 and got it cheap during one of the many Softube sales. But there doesn't seem to be much about this thing that I couldn't get from one of the 50 billion other synth plugins I already own.
Exactly, its a very good CS-x0 emu, but the chances are most people will have one already and you certainly don't need more than one! Late to the party and not really any better (to my ears) than what's already available...when its super cheep I may pick it up for the modules, but to be honest they really need to update the modular framework for that to be a pull...
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was very excited to demo this but so far to my surprise a bit disappointed

I love the Model-84 - whenever I load up I feel like I'm playing an 80s Hardware synth - not getting that "playing hardware" vibe yet from this

even the Vangelis type brassy leads - I opened up Repro 5 - the "CS-Something" patch to compare - and that sounds more alive, and weighty - don't know how to describe it

will continue to demo as I'd like to purchase but not sold on it it yet

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zvenx wrote: Tue Sep 03, 2024 4:19 pm I am starting to realise this may not be a full cs 80... I for instance can't find the sub oscillators..
Yes, the Softube has an LFO (which is what the CS80 calls "Sub Oscillator"). It works just like the original, Softube just named it like what it is, to avoid confusion as people think a Sub Oscillator is something else, these days...

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Buckster wrote: Tue Sep 03, 2024 4:25 pm even the Vangelis type brassy leads - I opened up Repro 5 - the "CS-Something" patch to compare - and that sounds more alive, and weighty - don't know how to describe it
The CS80 is not a thick synth, unlike things like the SCI/Oberheim stuff, if that's what you are expecting. As said previously, the synth part of the CS80 is kinda weak, it's really the expressivity and physical/tactility of the hardware that was it's big win - which you don't really get with a plugin, unless you have a weighted poly aftertouch keybed...

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Starsky's take:

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beely wrote: Tue Sep 03, 2024 4:34 pm
zvenx wrote: Tue Sep 03, 2024 4:19 pm I am starting to realise this may not be a full cs 80... I for instance can't find the sub oscillators..
Yes, the Softube has an LFO (which is what the CS80 calls "Sub Oscillator"). It works just like the original, Softube just named it like what it is, to avoid confusion as people think a Sub Oscillator is something else, these days...
Just realised that.. thanks.
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Looks nice. I dont need it but pretty sure it'll sound very good for a software emulation.

I was sure theyd release a Jupiter 8 next after the Prophet 5

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Best CS80 VST this far.

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What MemoryMoon synth will these Softube clowns rip off next? :P joking

I guess the Memory Moog will be next!

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trusampler wrote: Tue Sep 03, 2024 3:28 pm I'm not at all impressed with the sound designers choices for the presets of this synth. This is the first synth from Softube that hasn't made me feel like I need it in my toolbox. The Model 80 and 84 sound much better to my ears then this one. I think the Arturia CS80 V4 will hold me over, I think the Arturia option sounds better. Personally I'd rather see Softube tackle the Alesis Andromeda or other boutique synths vs doing the same thing over and over.
Have you tried ME80 or Arminator?

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