Baby Audio Transit - Ultimate Transition Designer in collabration w/ Andrew Huang

[billinder33]

I find Bitwig's envelope follower to often be lacking in gain, the one built into Transit is way better.

The Bitwig envelope follower has a gain, rise, fall, and scale parameters to adjust it accordingly. Peak or RMS detection too. 99% of the time if a plug-in has an auto-envelope follower built into it, I replace it with the Bitwig envelope follower because it works better and is more adjustable. Also, 99%, you need to crank the gain parameter up in order to generate an envelope that is going to give you values of modulation to work with.

The problem you may be encountering is envelope follower does not draw a graphic representation of the envelope as clearly in it's little window than say the audio side-chain modulator does. In envelope follower it's barely visible as a faded blue hidden behind the icon, where in audio-sidechain it's clearly visible as bright purple and unobstructed by an icon. They are basically the same thing, so you might want to whip up the audio-side chain to gain a better understanding of the envelope follower parameters I suspect you might not be entirely aware of that can be tweaked. (gain, rise, fall, amount)

Cheers

Thanks for the tips. I'll play around with this more, maybe the graphic is part of the problem here.

But TBH a lot of what you wrote is exactly why I don't like it. Too fiddly and never works on default. Compared to something like the follower in Filterverse which works 80%+ of the time without needing a tweak. Then just the workflow aspect... If I'm already in a plugin that has a follower, I'd rather just do everything there where you can easily see and identify all the device's parameters rather than a scrolly-list and having to bounce back and forth between the plugin and Bitwig's follower.

FWIW, I do get a bit of use out of Segments. Great way to turn Diva into a vintage wub-wub version of Serum. Also makes MassiveX less annoying to work with.

[Sampleconstruct]

Just watched a video for Transit 2, never tried version 1, I guess now is the time, looks and sounds interesting.

[enCiphered]

Transit is great, but it's too subtle for my taste. It's not comparable to Infiltrator, but it's much more fun to use.

[Ah_Dziz]

It kinda reminds me of the Melda stuff. How's the CPU. V2 seems cool if it's not a resource hog. Plenty there that seems more straightforward than setting up a chain with modulation in my host.

[Sampleconstruct]

The main problem is that there is only one modulation source which can either be a Macro or an LFO or an envelope follower or a very basic sequencer. So with all those fancy effect modules on board that's not really a concept for a multi effect. The overall sound is pretty good though.

[martiu]

they need to add some sort of a mod matrix with couple of modulation options, not just one big knob controlling all of it, it is going in the right direction to be one of the best multi fx plugins available though

[db3]

+1. Problem is they designed it as a transition effect, whereas most people immediately saw its potential as a multi-effect. Could become a really good multi-effect.

[kraster]

Agreed. Problem is they designed it as a transition effect, whereas most people immediately saw its potential as a multi-effect. Could become a really good multi-effect.

Yeah.

It's kind of between two stools. The original paradigm was a transition effect where the whole kit and kaboodle was controlled by one big knob.

Adding internal automation/modulation doesn't really get around that fundamental limitation so you end up with an underpowered (say compared to infiltrator or shaperbox) multi effect.

In fact when you look at it there are only two new modulation types. The "gate" is an instantaneous version of the original sequencer thingy. And the envelope follower and sidechain are essentially the same thing but one allows for external signals to trigger it. They could have just added a sidechain function to the envelope follower. That just leaves the LFO which is fine I guess.

The obvious thing would be to add modulation per effect slot. Then you'd be cooking.

Having said that I've been having fun with it as a pedal board style effect on guitar with the envelope follower and lfo.

[serge]

they need to add some sort of a mod matrix with couple of modulation options, not just one big knob controlling all of it, it is going in the right direction to be one of the best multi fx plugins available though

That’s version 3, to be out by Summer of Sound 2025.

[billinder33]

The main problem is that there is only one modulation source which can either be a Macro or an LFO or an envelope follower or a very basic sequencer.

IMO this is not a problem, but rather the entire point of the plugin. That you use with the intention of hooking all the FX parameters into a single macro knob or mod source, to build transitions and sweeps. It's in the name.

Having multiple simultaneous mod sources would completely change the workflow and make it more complex to configure, eliminating the use case this plugin excels at. The multi-mod use case is already well covered by Infiltrator, Shaperbox, etc., and I doubt Baby Audio wants to go head-to-head against those well established offerings.

[revvy]

Even at intro price, it’s not cheap, is it.

Likely future discounts?

[billinder33]

Even at intro price, it’s not cheap, is it.

IMO this is the biggest issue with it... Fairly pricey for a narrow use case plugin.

[kraster]

The main problem is that there is only one modulation source which can either be a Macro or an LFO or an envelope follower or a very basic sequencer.

IMO this is not a problem, but rather the entire point of the plugin. That you use with the intention of hooking all the FX parameters into a single macro knob or mod source, to build transitions and sweeps. It's in the name.

But they're distinctly pitching Transit 2 as more than just a transition effect and according to Andrew Huang's (bold) claims they want to be the number one plugin for multi effects with movement.

He says it at one minute in this video. So even they don't think it's exclusively for transitions.



That claim is a tall order given the existence of shaper box and infiltrator or even things like Sugarbyte's various multi fx offerings.

Transit 2 is really good and definitely extends the first iteration's capabilities but in order to be considered the "Number one" plugin for motion FX they'll have to expand on the modulation a good deal more

[billinder33]

The main problem is that there is only one modulation source which can either be a Macro or an LFO or an envelope follower or a very basic sequencer.

IMO this is not a problem, but rather the entire point of the plugin. That you use with the intention of hooking all the FX parameters into a single macro knob or mod source, to build transitions and sweeps. It's in the name.

But they're distinctly pitching Transit 2 as more than just a transition effect and according to Andrew Huang's (bold) claims they want to be the number one plugin for multi effects with movement.

He says it at one minute in this video. So even they don't think it's exclusively for transitions.



That claim is a tall order given the existence of shaper box and infiltrator or even things like Sugarbyte's various multi fx offerings.

Transit 2 is really good and definitely extends the first iteration's capabilities but in order to be considered the "Number one" plugin for motion FX they'll have to expand on the modulation a good deal more

TBH, I don't care what Andrew Huang or any other marketer says. "Aim was to become the number one plugin for motion FX" could mean anything - features, units sold, revenue, #1 in his own heart? He doesn't claim this alleged "aim" was reached. It's just basic marketing-speak that would pass any legal review.

I agree with him that it's evolved into more than just a transition effect. I don't think that's deceiving in any way. Like all plugins, it has strengths and weaknesses. He's not claiming it does something it doesn't.

IMO the most polarizing thing about this plugin is that it's attached to Andrew Huang. Take that away and people probably just see it as another modern but somewhat pricy sound design tool.

[Uncle E]

Isn’t part of Baby Audio’s brand their great UI’s and quick results? Turning this into a modular playground would seem to go against that.