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fisherKing wrote: Sat Oct 26, 2024 6:53 pm sometimes, i will select a preset, then the next several presets play the sound of the first-selected one...??? odd, but everything else is working (logic 11, sequoia...)
Were you loading an entire preset, or loading a preset into a layer?
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kv331 wrote: Sun Oct 27, 2024 7:12 amWere you loading an entire preset, or loading a preset into a layer?
I have the same HUGE issue - not a single preset will load at all. Whether left click, double click or right click->Load to layer. I mean what is going on - how is this core function out in the wild like this?

My major rant on this located here:

viewtopic.php?t=615349

I was (before it was uninstalled) using your very latest build (3.0.4) from a just few days ago.

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Vocalpoint Studios wrote: Sun Oct 27, 2024 12:25 pm
kv331 wrote: Sun Oct 27, 2024 7:12 amWere you loading an entire preset, or loading a preset into a layer?
I have the same HUGE issue - not a single preset will load at all. Whether left click, double click or right click->Load to layer. I mean what is going on - how is this core function out in the wild like this?
I can NOT reproduce this issue. I tested with VST2 and VST3 versions. I also tested with your license key file (I found your account from your kvr user name). Loaded SynthMaster One, Synthmaster 2 and Synthmaster 3 presets. Works as expected, presets load. So, could you possibly send us a video demonstrating the issue?
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kv331 wrote: Sun Oct 27, 2024 2:15 pm I can NOT reproduce this issue. I tested with VST2 and VST3 versions. I also tested with your license key file (I found your account from your kvr user name). Loaded SynthMaster One, Synthmaster 2 and Synthmaster 3 presets. Works as expected, presets load. So, could you possibly send us a video demonstrating the issue?
Would be happy to take another shot at this. But I need to understand what it is I am doing wrong?

Is it as simple as just left clicking on a preset - and it should load? Or is there something I am missing because I spent about 20 minutes on this and while I suppose it could be pilot error - I do not think I was doing anything out of the ordinary. Been using plugins for 25 years now.

Also - can you comment on why the 3.0.4 installer does not place the standalone version? I could not find it anywhere. Do we need to install as Admin or some other oddball requirements?

For the record - I am using Windows 10 22H2, Studio One v6.6.4/7.0.0 and VST3 only.

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Vocalpoint Studios wrote: Sun Oct 27, 2024 2:20 pm Is it as simple as just left clicking on a preset - and it should load? Or is there something I am missing because I spent about 20 minutes on this and while I suppose it could be pilot error - I do not think I was doing anything out of the ordinary. Been using plugins for 25 years now.

Also - can you comment on why the 3.0.4 installer does not place the standalone version? I could not find it anywhere. Do we need to install as Admin or some other oddball requirements?
Left click loads the preset.

Can you also try deleting:

My documents/SynthMaster3/Config/SynthMaster3Config.txt
My documents/SynthMaster3/SynthMasterPresets.xml

Maybe something was wrong with the config file.

As for the standalone version, it is located at:

Program Files\KV331 Audio\SynthMaster 3\SynthMaster 3.exe

Looks like I forgot to add a link under Windows start menu for it.
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kv331 wrote: Sun Oct 27, 2024 2:31 pm Left click loads the preset.
Not for me it doesn't.

And I want to be very clear - the SMv3 UI "looks" like it's loading the preset when I left click on it. The Preset area text changes - everything seems to indicate I am set to roll with the preset I selected but when I hit my keyboard - your drum laden default preset is still banging away.

As I noted in my other thread - even when I load INIT and clear everything - the same issue occurs. SM3 "looks" good - preset loaded - but playing the keyboard is nothing but the standard INIT sound - over and over - regardless of preset.

I will reload this and try again - and try this config tweaks
kv331 wrote: Sun Oct 27, 2024 2:31 pmAs for the standalone version, it is located at:

Program Files\KV331 Audio\SynthMaster 3\SynthMaster 3.exe

Looks like I forgot to add a link under Windows start menu for it.
Noted - however it would nice to get this behaving like it was in v2.9.

I would prefer to do everything above in standalone and make sure it is working before using it in Studio One. Especially the expansion updates - which are painful.

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Vocalpoint Studios wrote: Sun Oct 27, 2024 2:44 pm I would prefer to do everything above in standalone and make sure it is working before using it in Studio One. Especially the expansion updates - which are painful.
Downloading expansions is straightforward: Click on the preset name on the top header, and then click on the "Restore my preset banks" menu. That's it!
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kv331 wrote: Sun Oct 27, 2024 7:12 am
fisherKing wrote: Sat Oct 26, 2024 6:53 pm sometimes, i will select a preset, then the next several presets play the sound of the first-selected one...??? odd, but everything else is working (logic 11, sequoia...)
Were you loading an entire preset, or loading a preset into a layer?
scrolling thru presets; sometimes one preset sounds while selecting the next several.

will check this out more carefully this week (and will do a reboot first), and i'll report back. maybe just a glitch moment
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fisherKing wrote: Sun Oct 27, 2024 3:42 pm scrolling thru presets; sometimes one preset sounds while selecting the next several.

will check this out more carefully this week (and will do a reboot first), and i'll report back. maybe just a glitch moment
If you are scrolling fast, and the presets are loading resources that take time to load (wavetables or samples), this could happen. this is normal behaviour.
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Was using the vector oscillator and dropped a wavetable from my collection into one of the slots. Visually, the waveform changed but sonically, it was still just a sine wave. Not sure what's happening there.

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swilow11 wrote: Sun Oct 27, 2024 8:16 pm Was using the vector oscillator and dropped a wavetable from my collection into one of the slots. Visually, the waveform changed but sonically, it was still just a sine wave. Not sure what's happening there.
Basic additive and vector osc use single cycle waveforms, not wavetables
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^Okay, makes sense... Odd that it tries to load them though.

Also, I use the Serum wavetable "Tables" folder as my main location for wavetables and point all other synths to that folder. Is there a way to do this for SM3? I've tried just copying the Tables folder into the SM3 user folder in Documents (windows) but SM3 is seeing the tables as samples not wavetables, so they don't have an index control or if they're single cycles, they're not looping. Pretty sure I'm doing something wrong...

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swilow11 wrote: Sun Oct 27, 2024 8:38 pm ^Okay, makes sense... Odd that it tries to load them though.

Also, I use the Serum wavetable "Tables" folder as my main location for wavetables and point all other synths to that folder. Is there a way to do this for SM3? I've tried just copying the Tables folder into the SM3 user folder in Documents (windows) but SM3 is seeing the tables as samples not wavetables, so they don't have an index control or if they're single cycles, they're not looping. Pretty sure I'm doing something wrong...
Drag n drop a single wav file from that folder to the wavetable osc display, that folder will be added to the wavetables search path. So, you dont have to copy anything
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swilow11 wrote: Sun Oct 27, 2024 11:45 pm One thing re: the vector oscillator. I was actually trying to load single cycle waveforms, not a scannable wavetable. The single cycle was in wav format. Can these be loaded into the vector?
Yes you can. But I discovered 2 issues. will release a hotfix for that tonight. Please wait for my announcement :)
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