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audiojunkie wrote: Sun Oct 06, 2024 9:15 pm I want to like Bazille, but I don’t understand the oscillators. That’s my only problem. If someone could not assume that we understand FM synthesis and provide useful tutorials that don’t assume we understand everything...
Have you checked out Howard's Bazille Cookbook - an absolute goldmine of information and explanation. It's the first time I got my head around Bazille's sequencer.
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Where would I find it? :)


Edit: Found it! :)

https://www.kvraudio.com/product/the-ba ... ok-by-u-he
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wintoid wrote: Wed Oct 02, 2024 6:30 pm I bought Bazille over 9 years ago. I think it might still be my favourite synth of all time. That is all.
If I could only have 1 synth, hardware or software, it would be Bazille.

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I love it. Most interesting synth I have. In case anyone is interested, here’s a track made with one single instance of Bazille, one track, one synth, additional fx provided by a dj filter

https://on.soundcloud.com/MuYiG6QYbn4zGLpM6

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one of the top 3 best sounding synth for me, feels like i'm using hardware even tho i've never used hardware before which is odd. U-he's best work imo.

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I can't believe how much they got right, and so long ago. I only bought it because I wanted in to the "Berlin Modular" system, which I don't think ever happened. Is that still coming, or has my memory failed me?

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Actually BazilleCM introduced me to Bazille and from there to all the catalog.

My favorite too when I take it as a game of doing sounds just for the sake of it, with no clear goal other than to spend time programming a synth...

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Quick under-the-hood question: for HQ mode, exactly how is oversampling occurring? If at project 48kHz, does HQ internally run Bazille at 2xSR (96kHz)? 4xSR (192kHz)? Similarly, if running at 192, would that make it 2xSR (384kHz), etc? Or is there some other protocol in use? Just trying to plan out sensible settings for a project.

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IIRC without HQ it is 2x oversampling, with HQ it's 4x oversampling relative of the sample rate.

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Thanks, good to know.

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Same here. Bazille is UNIQUE. I can get sounds from it which I can't get anywhere else. In a saturated market like virtual studio technology this really is something.

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I find Bazille presets very inspiring and they often sound "organic". But as soon as I try to create something, I only get a blip blip pffff dniyiiidh session I can't do music with.
I'd love to love Bazille, but I guess I'm covered with Zebra, and, If I'm going to learn a new synth, I might as well get to grips with Zebralette 3 while I wait for Zebra 3.
Still, Bazille is in my list for further and I'd like to apply the fan club one day.

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robisme wrote: Wed Oct 30, 2024 7:22 am I find Bazille presets very inspiring and they often sound "organic". But as soon as I try to create something, I only get a blip blip pffff dniyiiidh session I can't do music with.
I'd love to love Bazille, but I guess I'm covered with Zebra, and, If I'm going to learn a new synth, I might as well get to grips with Zebralette 3 while I wait for Zebra 3.
Still, Bazille is in my list for further and I'd like to apply the fan club one day.
Exactly my opinion. I love Bazille, but Bazille doesn't love me back.
I have no idea how to tame and master it's oscillators and modulators.

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One thing you could try is, on patches you particularly like something about, you could recreate it in a separate instance working out from a specific module. When I’m learning a synth, I’ll sometimes have two channels going with the same synth, one with the patch I like and the other with an init patch. I recreate sections so I can see what’s happening without everything else in the patch. In Bazille, for me, this was very effective with the sequencer with a patch that had multiple rhythms. I programmed the sequencer, followed the outs and ran them to initialized oscillators then to outputs. Then you tweak the oscillator and follow its output or whatever.

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Ou_Tis wrote: Fri Oct 04, 2024 5:29 pm Tbh I haven't been loving most of the presets as much as I expected so far---care to post some audio examples?
In terms of the sounds Bazille offers in its preset bank, I'm not sure I would recommend it over other synths such as Pigments or Hive.

Imo, what makes this synth exceptional is what it offers in terms of the process of designing patches; it allows me to produce weird and wonderful results in a way that I find surprising yet intuitive. Everything being on one page (mostly), and connections being made with cables instead of dropdown menus (aka "mod matrix") just makes me want to keep tweaking things and experimenting.
robisme wrote: Wed Oct 30, 2024 7:22 am I find Bazille presets very inspiring and they often sound "organic". But as soon as I try to create something, I only get a blip blip pffff dniyiiidh session I can't do music with.
I also tend to get those kinds of non-musical results from Bazille. But, I like them.
audiojunkie wrote: Sun Oct 06, 2024 9:15 pm I want to like Bazille, but I don’t understand the oscillators. That’s my only problem. If someone could not assume that we understand FM synthesis...
What don't you understand about them? Just the FM aspect, or the whole oscillator?

In my experience, you don't need any special understanding of technical details to start using Bazille's oscillators. All you need to know is how to attach a modulator (e.g. an envelope) to a destination (e.g. oscillator volume). Once you're confident with that, then Bazille's oscillators are no more complicated/confusing than any other soft-synth. Unless I'm misunderstanding you.

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