Have you checked out Howard's Bazille Cookbook - an absolute goldmine of information and explanation. It's the first time I got my head around Bazille's sequencer.audiojunkie wrote: Sun Oct 06, 2024 9:15 pm I want to like Bazille, but I don’t understand the oscillators. That’s my only problem. If someone could not assume that we understand FM synthesis and provide useful tutorials that don’t assume we understand everything...
Bazille fan club
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- KVRian
- 1085 posts since 26 Jun, 2003 from UK
- KVRAF
- 7044 posts since 19 Apr, 2002 from Utah
Vendor‑Dependent Copy Protection: Customers lose. Pirates win.
(Also: I'm Accused of lying about Linux—it boots, runs my pro audio workflow, stays stable, updates--though yearly dismissed as “niche”. Yet I'm the deluded one.)
(Also: I'm Accused of lying about Linux—it boots, runs my pro audio workflow, stays stable, updates--though yearly dismissed as “niche”. Yet I'm the deluded one.)
- KVRAF
- 26951 posts since 3 Feb, 2005 from in the wilds
If I could only have 1 synth, hardware or software, it would be Bazille.wintoid wrote: Wed Oct 02, 2024 6:30 pm I bought Bazille over 9 years ago. I think it might still be my favourite synth of all time. That is all.
- KVRist
- 493 posts since 17 Dec, 2013 from The Netherlands
I love it. Most interesting synth I have. In case anyone is interested, here’s a track made with one single instance of Bazille, one track, one synth, additional fx provided by a dj filter
https://on.soundcloud.com/MuYiG6QYbn4zGLpM6
https://on.soundcloud.com/MuYiG6QYbn4zGLpM6
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 413 posts since 6 Apr, 2014
I can't believe how much they got right, and so long ago. I only bought it because I wanted in to the "Berlin Modular" system, which I don't think ever happened. Is that still coming, or has my memory failed me?
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- KVRian
- 1119 posts since 4 Jan, 2007
Actually BazilleCM introduced me to Bazille and from there to all the catalog.
My favorite too when I take it as a game of doing sounds just for the sake of it, with no clear goal other than to spend time programming a synth...
My favorite too when I take it as a game of doing sounds just for the sake of it, with no clear goal other than to spend time programming a synth...
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- KVRian
- 1115 posts since 6 Jul, 2009
Quick under-the-hood question: for HQ mode, exactly how is oversampling occurring? If at project 48kHz, does HQ internally run Bazille at 2xSR (96kHz)? 4xSR (192kHz)? Similarly, if running at 192, would that make it 2xSR (384kHz), etc? Or is there some other protocol in use? Just trying to plan out sensible settings for a project.
- u-he
- 30193 posts since 8 Aug, 2002 from Berlin
IIRC without HQ it is 2x oversampling, with HQ it's 4x oversampling relative of the sample rate.
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- KVRian
- 1115 posts since 6 Jul, 2009
Thanks, good to know.
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- KVRist
- 255 posts since 15 Jul, 2022
I find Bazille presets very inspiring and they often sound "organic". But as soon as I try to create something, I only get a blip blip pffff dniyiiidh session I can't do music with.
I'd love to love Bazille, but I guess I'm covered with Zebra, and, If I'm going to learn a new synth, I might as well get to grips with Zebralette 3 while I wait for Zebra 3.
Still, Bazille is in my list for further and I'd like to apply the fan club one day.
I'd love to love Bazille, but I guess I'm covered with Zebra, and, If I'm going to learn a new synth, I might as well get to grips with Zebralette 3 while I wait for Zebra 3.
Still, Bazille is in my list for further and I'd like to apply the fan club one day.
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- KVRist
- 227 posts since 4 Jun, 2019
Exactly my opinion. I love Bazille, but Bazille doesn't love me back.robisme wrote: Wed Oct 30, 2024 7:22 am I find Bazille presets very inspiring and they often sound "organic". But as soon as I try to create something, I only get a blip blip pffff dniyiiidh session I can't do music with.
I'd love to love Bazille, but I guess I'm covered with Zebra, and, If I'm going to learn a new synth, I might as well get to grips with Zebralette 3 while I wait for Zebra 3.
Still, Bazille is in my list for further and I'd like to apply the fan club one day.
I have no idea how to tame and master it's oscillators and modulators.
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- KVRian
- 657 posts since 2 May, 2002 from Kalispell, MT
One thing you could try is, on patches you particularly like something about, you could recreate it in a separate instance working out from a specific module. When I’m learning a synth, I’ll sometimes have two channels going with the same synth, one with the patch I like and the other with an init patch. I recreate sections so I can see what’s happening without everything else in the patch. In Bazille, for me, this was very effective with the sequencer with a patch that had multiple rhythms. I programmed the sequencer, followed the outs and ran them to initialized oscillators then to outputs. Then you tweak the oscillator and follow its output or whatever.
- KVRist
- 43 posts since 6 Apr, 2020
In terms of the sounds Bazille offers in its preset bank, I'm not sure I would recommend it over other synths such as Pigments or Hive.Ou_Tis wrote: Fri Oct 04, 2024 5:29 pm Tbh I haven't been loving most of the presets as much as I expected so far---care to post some audio examples?
Imo, what makes this synth exceptional is what it offers in terms of the process of designing patches; it allows me to produce weird and wonderful results in a way that I find surprising yet intuitive. Everything being on one page (mostly), and connections being made with cables instead of dropdown menus (aka "mod matrix") just makes me want to keep tweaking things and experimenting.
I also tend to get those kinds of non-musical results from Bazille. But, I like them.robisme wrote: Wed Oct 30, 2024 7:22 am I find Bazille presets very inspiring and they often sound "organic". But as soon as I try to create something, I only get a blip blip pffff dniyiiidh session I can't do music with.
What don't you understand about them? Just the FM aspect, or the whole oscillator?audiojunkie wrote: Sun Oct 06, 2024 9:15 pm I want to like Bazille, but I don’t understand the oscillators. That’s my only problem. If someone could not assume that we understand FM synthesis...
In my experience, you don't need any special understanding of technical details to start using Bazille's oscillators. All you need to know is how to attach a modulator (e.g. an envelope) to a destination (e.g. oscillator volume). Once you're confident with that, then Bazille's oscillators are no more complicated/confusing than any other soft-synth. Unless I'm misunderstanding you.
