What's on your Black Friday radar?

[himalaya]

And yet you are seem to be unaware that the new Montage M 8X generates Polyphonic aftertouch which can be used with MPE. Something your older Montage 8 can't do. You also seem ignorant to the fact that using Cubase and HALion7 you can do all kinds of things with MPE and use the new Montage M8x to play and build sequences with it

Polyphonic aftertouch constitutes only one part of MPE. Can you play polyphonic pitch bend gestures on your Montage M8X? Perhaps vibrato played on one key with the right hand and a glissando performed with the left hand? You can not. How about in-depended slide gestures? You can not do it on your Montage.
For MPE to be MPE you need five polyphonic controllers (or 'dimensions') and polyphonic aftertouch constitutes only one part of it.

You mentioning Cubase and HAlion is neither here nor there. Not part of the topic.
Whatever plugin you have, if it outputs full MPE, then you will need a full blown MPE controller to play such sounds. Controllers like these fit the bill: Hacken Continuum, Roli Seaboard RISE, Roger Linn's Linnstrument, to name but only three examples of the genre. Simply recording MPE data is not it. So if you can record MPE into Monatge M, great. We can all do it too with any number of DAWs. But, again this isn't the actual topic. The topic was, a user wished for the DX7 plugin to receive MPE compatibility.

Apparently you don't specialize in it as much as you think. If you did you would already be aware of the MPE capabilities of both FM-X inside of HALion7 and F-em. You would also be aware that those tools can do anything the DX7 engine can do plus a whole lot more

You've conflated two ideas here. Being familiar with a specification sheet for any given synth, doesn't make you a specialist in actually being able to use its synth engine. I humbly propose, that perhaps after having taught FM synthesis at the University of Westminster, this should give me the confidence to say, that perhaps I know about FM synthesis?
But again, this isn't about Halion, or F-em either, but the DX7 plugin, and a user who wished it had MPE compatibility.

You would also be aware that using HALion7 you can even import DX7 patches using DX7 sysex and then assign whatever MPE controls you want to anything using Note Expressions in Cubase

This isn't what MPE is about. MPE is about live playing, not editing midi data in Cubase or any other DAW.

Your whole post was needlessly condescending. You could do well to learn how to get an isight when people interact with you in good faith.

[Annesio]

I wonder why JRR Shop excluded all Eduardo Tarilonte libraries. I would have loved to pick up one or two of them on BF.

That's always the case with Tarilonte libraries. There will be a BF sale (at least there was for the past 3 years or so).

OT, there are some on my shortlist:
Nexus 5 (upgrade) with some expansions
oeksound bloom
The legend HZ upgrade
Fabfilter (upgrade R2 and maybe twin3)
UAD Complete 13 upgrade from 11 (still waiting until the price goes down some more)

[enCiphered]

That's always the case with Tarilonte libraries. There will be a BF sale (at least there was for the past 3 years or so).

Oh wow, thats great to hear! Thank you

[enCiphered]

Yeah, a lot of “Augmented” this or that.

I kind of dismissed the whole Augmented thing as just another rompler, a way to release "content" without much DSP development, etc. I'm not super thrilled about sample-based instruments for the most part, aside from maybe a Mellotron or other lo-fi weirdness once in a while.

But Augmented Voices at least seems pretty good for eerie ambient stuff. I'm at least going to try Woodwinds and Strings, now that I've already paid for the whole pile.

The Augmented piano is actually very good for that also. Especially if you use sparse minimal notes

Well god damn it, I'm trying not to buy it.

Oh, come on, you know resistance is futile! I tried everything. Years of therapy, deleting the Arturia website from my bookmarks... even meditating in a quiet, synth-free room. But here we are. I caved, too. Might as well accept the GAS and let those sweet, sweet sounds fill the void!
On a more serious note, I upgraded from V6 to VX and only installed the Augmented Instruments, DX7, and SQ-80. Amazing stuff, I really had a blast!

[martinjuenke]

Arturia: best bang for your buck!

[mumpcake]

responding late to this, but total agreement, V-Collection should have remianed about vintage emulations, the Play series orchestral ROMplers are a huge WTF? especially since it makes the exclusion of Pigments that much more puzzling.

Minifreak was my main reason for finally buying V Collection. (I guess V Collection XI will also include Minibrute.)

It does seem like a weird choice to include Augmented ____ but not Pigments. It works for me though -- I used to have Pigments and sold it. And I'd have never bought the Augmented stuff itself, but now that I have them I find them useful.

Especially since the Augmented products share an awful lot with Pigments.

[foosnark]

But a 303, no, I f**king don't need that. Don't get me wrong, I love me a 303, but my B.303 gets the job done for me.

Acid V was the last one I tried. I didn't figure I was likely to want to use it in my music anyway, but to me something about it just didn't sound very authentic. Like it's trying but it never really gets there. I'm not a connoisseur though.

I wasn't expecting to like Augmented Piano as much as I did, but it'll be great for bowed piano, granular stuff, bass tones etc. I wasn't as thrilled by Augmented Strings or Brass though.

Hmm, does the regular Piano V instrument also do some more sustained stuff as well? I may have to give that a shot too.

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I looked at the Korg deals but nothing is really grabbing me. OpSix is probably great, but I am up to my neck in FM synths already and the price isn't quite low enough to tempt me to try it regardless. If they had a cheap emulation of the DS-8/707 I might be tempted just for nostalgia even though it's still basically FM (I have a dead DS-8 in the closet, that I played back in the high school jazz ensemble and a really ill-fated rock band some friends attempted). But they don't.

[IvyBirds]

Polyphonic aftertouch constitutes only one part of MPE. Can you play polyphonic pitch bend gestures on your Montage M8X?

But we were never talking about Polyphonic Pitch Bend as that has nothing specifically to do with either the DX7 engine or FM Synthesis in general

For MPE to be MPE you need five polyphonic controllers (or 'dimensions') and polyphonic aftertouch constitutes only one part of it.

You mentioning Cubase and HAlion is neither here nor there. Not part of the topic.

Sure it does because the topic is using MPE even all five demsions of it with the DX7 engine, something that you can absolutely do with HALion7 in Cubase. You can use those tools to play it live, record it, edit it, sequence it etc

But just like with everything in the MIDI spec you don't have to use all of it all at once either. MIDI CC2 is dedicated for a breath controller. The OG DX7 and the engine inside of it responds to CC2. Does that mean if you are not using a breath controller you are not using MIDI? Of course not, just like if you don't use all 5 dimensions available inside of the MPE specification at once doesn't mean you are not using MPE. If you are using even part of something you are still using that something

If I wanted to use all 5 dimensions at the same time to play live, I could go buy a controller that would support that and use it to play the DX7 engine, even using DX7 sysex to load DX7 patches, I could easily do so using HALion7. If I wanted to record, edit, quantize, sequence, cut, paste, copy, or drag that MPE data I could also do so using Cubase. But for me I have no desire to play all 5 demsions at once, but that doesn't mean that I don't use MPE. I am perfectly content to use one dimension of MPE at a time. The DX7 engine in and off itself as it existed in the 1980s is already extremely expressive to play even without MPE.

No matter how many dimensions of MPE you want to apply to the DX7 engine you can already do that, with no difficulty using existing products that are currently on sale and probably will be on Black Friday and if it's important to you, should be on your Black Friday radar which is the topic of this thread

All I was trying to do was point that out. There is no reason to lament the fact that the Arturia DX7 V doesn't support MPE as other tools do, tools that can do everything the DX7-V can do and then significantly more

[Dencheg]

TAL-Pha and Legend HZ, most likely. Those are good

[Caine123]

does TAL do any BF sales at all? and i dont think synapse will dot BF Sale on Legend HZ? does anyone know?

[revvy]

No new synths needed here.

Got Cableguys SnapBack. V nice.

[Writetomichael]

No new synths needed here.

Got Cableguys SnapBack. V nice.

Being fairly new to this site, I would hazard a guess that your statement applies to 90% of people here (myself included : D : D : D).

But yeah, if the Microwave 1 VST goes on sale for £70 or less, I’m gonna be all over that.

Having bought two HW synths (P10 and 3w) in the past 1.5 years, I’ve learnt the expensive way that VSTs are all you need (and way more convenient). Microwave 1 will replace my 3W.

[GGaudio7]

Very nice indeed! I listened to the demos, and they sound great. There’s also MPE support, which is always a big plus. Do all the synths in the V-Collection support MPE?
edit: I just checked their website, these are the MPE-capable instruments:
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DX7 is not listed

As I do like the Arturia synths very much (and I am already using V collection X), I also would like to see their DX7 support MPE in it´s "standard definition of controlling multiple parameters while playing using a dedicated MPE controller"!
I am saying/writing this, BECAUSE I do like the Arturia software, and wish for it to evolve it´s potential in the future - also mind: you do get all upgrades for the synths for free!
It would really make me use it differently with my Seaboards, because/although I do like it´s sound, I use it differently, just with the "limitations" it has right now - but it sounds good
( and of course for MPE-compatibility there is e.g F-EM ... )

[Dencheg]

does TAL do any BF sales at all? and i dont think synapse will dot BF Sale on Legend HZ? does anyone know?

I don't think Legend HZ will be (heavily) discounted, and I intend to use upgrade anyway.
Regarding TAL, they do sales not too often and not too cheap.
Saying that, I'll get them (or some of them) regardles of the sale, just out of the sheer joy of holidays

[Caine123]

does TAL do any BF sales at all? and i dont think synapse will dot BF Sale on Legend HZ? does anyone know?

I don't think Legend HZ will be (heavily) discounted, and I intend to use upgrade anyway.
Regarding TAL, they do sales not too often and not too cheap.
Saying that, I'll get them (or some of them) regardles of the sale, just out of the sheer joy of holidays

thx im looking forward, lets see .