SynthMaster 3 Official Thread: SynthMaster 3/Player v3.4.9 Rev 17271 update

[kv331]

When muting one layer, that layer will stay muted no matter whatever preset you're selecting after.
Pretty weird, i was just scrolling through presets and a lot were silent. Turned out that these were 1 layer presets and i muted layer 1 in one preset before...

I'll look into that. It might be happening when loading a SM1 / SM2 preset onto that layer afterwards.

[dionenoid]

When muting one layer, that layer will stay muted no matter whatever preset you're selecting after.
Pretty weird, i was just scrolling through presets and a lot were silent. Turned out that these were 1 layer presets and i muted layer 1 in one preset before...

I'll look into that. It might be happening when loading a SM1 / SM2 preset onto that layer afterwards.

Nope. Happened with SM3 presets, i don't think i even imported the SM2 presets yet. And i didn't load anything to a layer, i was just listening to presets.

Pick a preset > mute layer 1 > pick next preset : layer 1 stays muted.
And same goes for layer 2.

[kv331]

Nope. Happened with SM3 presets, i don't think i even imported the SM2 presets yet. And i didn't load anything to a layer, i was just listening to presets.

Pick a preset > mute layer 1 > pick next preset : layer 1 stays muted.
And same goes for layer 2.

I can not reproduce this but I am running the latest 3.1 alpha version, I might have fixed the issue.

Would you be able to give me the names of the subsequent presets so that I can test this exact scenario ?

Thanks!

[Examigan]

I tried that out from here and it works ok for me. I only mute the first layer, and the other SM3 presets I check out aren't muted.

I'm using the VST2 version.

[Examigan]

I was thinking it might be nice to have the option of using a saved Layer preset to load as a new layer. The way it is now, you have to add a new layer first, then load the saved one into that newly created layer. It would save a step to have it as choice under the gear icon.

[gussent]

Nope. Happened with SM3 presets, i don't think i even imported the SM2 presets yet. And i didn't load anything to a layer, i was just listening to presets.

Pick a preset > mute layer 1 > pick next preset : layer 1 stays muted.
And same goes for layer 2.

I can not reproduce this but I am running the latest 3.1 alpha version, I might have fixed the issue.

Would you be able to give me the names of the subsequent presets so that I can test this exact scenario ?

Thanks!

This is one of the bugs from my last report, maybe you actually fixed it already.

[Teksonik]

Boy oh boy, you really got triggered by my little remark

Who got triggered?

So my advice for you: in the future keep the condescending tone down.

Sounds like you got triggered worse than I did......

You felt the need to argue over the definition of "a ton" for something that has no weight and then complained that the 2.5 Gigs of free sample content I linked to wasn't varied enough for your sophisticated palate so you just came across as an ungrateful spoiled brat. So here's my advice for you......grow up.

[kv331]

The master drum sequence dialog is shaping up nicely. Here's an example preset with 4 drum-part layers. This dialog only shows drum-part layers, meaning you can have other layers for melody

master sequencer.jpg

The purpose of this dialog is to make it easier to create drum patterns. and you are not limited to a single pattern. Previously, there was only a SINGLE pattern for the Sequencer. But now we can have MULTIPLE patterns, which can be assigned to keyboard ranges just like multi samples! If there are multiple patterns assigned for a specific key range, you can set which one to start with (First pattern, round robin, random) and which ones come after.

Just so you know, this applies to regular layer sequences as well. If time permits for v3.1, I am going to create a similar screen to edit multiple patterns for layers so that you can assign different chord progressions / sequences to multiple keys! and you'd be able to save sequence lists as separate presets.

and image you can import MIDI into this to create patterns

[Teksonik]

Sadly I've been getting frequent crashes in FL Studio and today also Waveform Pro 13.

SM FL Crash.png

SM WF Crash.png

If I submit the Crash Log to Image-Line support they're just going to see that it references the Synthmaster 3.dll and they'll blame the plugin, close the ticket, and move on.

I'm also getting frequent stuck notes in both DAWs. I've had to hit the panic button a couple dozen times today. I'm really loving SM3 as a very deep and feature rich synth but it's stability here is not good.

It's possible there could be something system specific here but it's a system with 1,000 plugins and both DAWS I use daily rarely if ever crash. None of the two dozen or so plugins I use every day have such crash and stuck note issues so I'm not sure what to tell you. Win 10 latest version, latest release versions of both FL Studio and Waveform Pro 13.

[Examigan]

The master drum sequence dialog is shaping up nicely. Here's an example preset with 4 drum-part layers. This dialog only shows drum-part layers, meaning you can have other layers for melody


master sequencer.jpg

Nice!
Is there just one velocity setting for each step? Is there a way to do things like alternate the velocity every other step e.g. just for the hihat and leave the others at a certain velocity setting?

[kv331]

I'm also getting frequent stuck notes in both DAWs. I've had to hit the panic button a couple dozen times today. I'm really loving SM3 as a very deep and feature rich synth but it's stability here is not good.

Try turning on "use fixed size buffers" setting in FL Studio.

Regarding the crashes, that windows crash dump doesn't help unfortunately. Could you be able to tell at what point it crashed? (upon doing what?) Thanks!

[kv331]

Is there just one velocity setting for each step? Is there a way to do things like alternate the velocity every other step e.g. just for the hihat and leave the others at a certain velocity setting?

Each layer (drum part) step has its own velocity, so yes you can achieve that

[Examigan]

Here's a 3 layer preset I made that's real basic but thought I'd share. I used longer samples (around 10 seconds each) of my Sub Phatty to make this. The filtered sound and drive effect are in the samples themselves, not from SM3.

https://whyp.it/tracks/226659/synthmast ... oken=TAPPz

[Teksonik]

I'm also getting frequent stuck notes in both DAWs. I've had to hit the panic button a couple dozen times today. I'm really loving SM3 as a very deep and feature rich synth but it's stability here is not good.

Try turning on "use fixed size buffers" setting in FL Studio.
Regarding the crashes, that windows crash dump doesn't help unfortunately. Could you be able to tell at what point it crashed? (upon doing what?) Thanks!

All the crashes happened while creating patches. Once it happened while dragging Velocity to modulate a parameter but other than just being in the act of creating patches I haven't found a common trigger for the crashes. I'll try fixed size buffers on in FL and see how that goes tomorrow.

As for the stuck notes I think I've found the culprit. It seems to happen when using an Arp set to Chord mode (which is one method I use for making trance gates).

Try this preset:

Test Arp Chord.zip

I can get stuck notes in both FL and WF quite easily playing that patch. There's not much else going on in the preset as far as modulation so I'm not sure what's going on. Of note, I am playing the patches from a midi controller as opposed to placing notes in a Piano roll when the stuck notes occur.

On the subject of presets, here's a dozen that I've done so far. Nothing that's going to win a gold medal but I noticed a lot of factory content is geared towards more modern or EDM type sounds so I wanted to see how SM3 does with more "old fashioned" types of sounds...

Teksonik SM3 Free.zip

[Teksonik]

Here's a 3 layer preset I made that's real basic but thought I'd share. I used longer samples (around 10 seconds each) of my Sub Phatty to make this. The filtered sound and drive effect are in the samples themselves, not from SM3.
https://whyp.it/tracks/226659/synthmast ... oken=TAPPz

Very nice sound and shows perfectly how layering samples of hardware synths can be really effective.