SynthMaster 3 Official Thread: SynthMaster 3/Player v3.4.9 Rev 17271 update

[Examigan]

On the subject of presets, here's a dozen that I've done so far. Nothing that's going to win a gold medal but I noticed a lot of factory content is geared towards more modern or EDM type sounds so I wanted to see how SM3 does with more "old fashioned" types of sounds...

Nice job! I added those to the SM3 preset folder for safe keeping.

[kv331]

All the crashes happened while creating patches. Once it happened while dragging Velocity to modulate a parameter but other than just being in the act of creating patches I haven't found a common trigger for the crashes. I'll try fixed size buffers on in FL and see how that goes tomorrow.

Thanks for this tip, I believe I fixed the issue just now. It happens when you drag a modulation source button on another one. I will release an unofficial update today

[dionenoid]

Pick a preset > mute layer 1 > pick next preset : layer 1 stays muted.
And same goes for layer 2.

I can not reproduce this but I am running the latest 3.1 alpha version, I might have fixed the issue.

Would you be able to give me the names of the subsequent presets so that I can test this exact scenario ?

Thanks!

It's 100% reproduceable here. Win10, Cubase 14, VST3.

Doesn't matter what presets i use. Randomly picked various presets from various banks and muted a layer, and randomly checked other presets. Always same issue ; the layer stays muted.

[kv331]

Hi guys,

Here's the first update towards SynthMaster 3.1: version 3.0.7. You can think of it 3.1 Beta. Not complete yet but useable, please play with it and report issues to us. We are going to add new presets, skins and videos in our official release in December.

Since this is not an official release yet, there is only an update setup on dropbox:

Windows:
https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/knt6ml81 ... la4cd&dl=0

MacOS:
https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/2s0zl3ku ... x76el&dl=0

This update has the following new features:

1. Added drum part sequencer type and ability to load presets into drum part layers
2. Added master sequencer dialog for editing drum part layers
3. Added voice modifiers for VAnalog Oscillator and ADSR Envelope
4. Added parameter value entry by text
5. Added Waveform/Wavetable/Sample Browser dialog window
6. Added keyboard up/down/left/right keys support for listbox and treeview controls

master sequencer.jpg

There are also critical bug fixes:

1. SynthMaster 3 crashes when a modulation source button is dragged on another modulation source button
2. When a popup window is open, all controls behind it should be invisible
3. When user changes waveform of a vector/additive oscillator while a note is playing, the new waveform is not loaded
4. Increasing unison detune spread parameter of a layer shifts the center pitch of that layer when layer has more than one unison voices
5. When user loads a presets, mutes a layer, and than loads SynthMaster One / 2 preset, the layer stays as muted

[kv331]

Doesn't matter what presets i use. Randomly picked various presets from various banks and muted a layer, and randomly checked other presets. Always same issue ; the layer stays muted.

Could you please download the latest v3.0.7 update from the dropbox link I posted above?

Thanks

[kv331]

Once it happened while dragging Velocity to modulate a parameter but other than just being in the act of creating patches I haven't found a common trigger for the crashes.

Could you please download the latest v3.0.7 update from the dropbox link I posted above?

Thanks

[Examigan]

Hi guys,

Here's the first update towards SynthMaster 3.1: version 3.0.7. You can think of it 3.1 Beta. Not complete yet but useable, please play with it and report issues to us. We are going to add new presets, skins and videos in our official release in December.

This update has the following new features:

1. Added drum part sequencer type and ability to load presets into drum part layers
2. Added master sequencer dialog for editing drum part layers
3. Added voice modifiers for VAnalog Oscillator and ADSR Envelope
4. Added parameter value entry by text
5. Added Waveform/Wavetable/Sample Browser dialog window
6. Added keyboard up/down/left/right keys support for listbox and treeview controls

There are also critical bug fixes:

1. SynthMaster 3 crashes when a modulation source button is dragged on another modulation source button
2. When a popup window is open, all controls behind it should be invisible
3. When user changes waveform of a vector/additive oscillator while a note is playing, the new waveform is not loaded
4. Increasing unison detune spread parameter of a layer shifts the center pitch of that layer when layer has more than one unison voices
5. When user loads a presets, mutes a layer, and than loads SynthMaster One / 2 preset, the layer stays as muted

Awesome! I’ll check it out later today.

[Teksonik]

Doesn't matter what presets i use. Randomly picked various presets from various banks and muted a layer, and randomly checked other presets. Always same issue ; the layer stays muted.

Could you please download the latest v3.0.7 update from the dropbox link I posted above?
Thanks

Done. I'll install and test in the next couple of hours.

Did you (or anyone else here) get a chance to test the Arp-Chord preset that's causing stuck notes?

I forgot to mention to make sure you have a limiter on the master as the stuck notes can sometimes be louder than the normal volume of the patch.

Test Arp Chord.zip

[dionenoid]

Doesn't matter what presets i use. Randomly picked various presets from various banks and muted a layer, and randomly checked other presets. Always same issue ; the layer stays muted.

Could you please download the latest v3.0.7 update from the dropbox link I posted above?

Thanks

That fixed my issue

[kv331]

Guys, looks like this 3.0.7 update has an annoying issue at startup: it takes too long to startup. Fixing that in an hour.

[dionenoid]

Guys, looks like this 3.0.7 update has an annoying issue at startup: it takes too long to startup. Fixing that in an hour.

Ah okay, thought it was me

[Examigan]

Doesn't matter what presets i use. Randomly picked various presets from various banks and muted a layer, and randomly checked other presets. Always same issue ; the layer stays muted.

Could you please download the latest v3.0.7 update from the dropbox link I posted above?
Thanks

Done. I'll install and test in the next couple of hours.

Did you (or anyone else here) get a chance to test the Arp-Chord preset that's causing stuck notes?

I forgot to mention to make sure you have a limiter on the master as the stuck notes can sometimes be louder than the normal volume of the patch.


Test Arp Chord.zip

I just tried it (VST2 version here in Cakewalk) with my keyboard playing 3 note chords and it's ok here. No stuck notes.

The only thing is I noticed is it sometimes plays the lowest or mid note of the chord first, and then plays the others in the chord after, but that might be just how you designed it (?). I thought it would play all the notes of whichever chord that's played all at once, and repeat them in the pattern you set up.

It plays all the chord's notes at once if I use the piano roll to play the chords.

Also, there is a limiter in the synth already.

[kv331]

Did you (or anyone else here) get a chance to test the Arp-Chord preset that's causing stuck notes?

I forgot to mention to make sure you have a limiter on the master as the stuck notes can sometimes be louder than the normal volume of the patch.


Test Arp Chord.zip

I tested the VST2 version inside FLStudio but did not get any stuck notes.

[Teksonik]

I just tried it (VST2 version here in Cakewalk) with my keyboard playing 3 note chords and it's ok here. No stuck notes.

I still get stuck notes with the latest version from yesterday. Try playing an octave with your left hand then play three note chords with your right hand and change them up. Eventually that causes the stuck notes here 100% of the time in two different DAWs.

The stuck notes do not occur after recording and playback of midi only in real time play.

Also, there is a limiter in the synth already.

Yes but it never hurts to have a second layer of protection especially if the issue can cause stuck notes to sound much louder than the overall volume of the synth which has happened a few times here.

[kv331]

The stuck notes do not occur after recording and playback of midi only in real time play.

FLStudio and any other DAW that does NOT use fixed size audio buffers cause those issues in real time play, with all of our synths. I will try to address this but it's really difficult to debug while playing live.