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Jac459 · Post by **Jac459** » Wed Nov 20, 2024 2:42 pm

kv331 wrote: Wed Nov 20, 2024 2:40 pm
Teksonik wrote: Wed Nov 20, 2024 2:33 pm
The stuck notes do not occur after recording and playback of midi only in real time play.

FLStudio and any other DAW that does NOT use fixed size audio buffers cause those issues in real time play, with all of our synths. I will try to address this but it's really difficult to debug while playing live.

Sure but if it wasn't difficult it wouldn't be fun, right ?

Teksonik · Post by **Teksonik** » Wed Nov 20, 2024 2:50 pm

kv331 wrote: Tue Nov 19, 2024 9:40 pm
Teksonik wrote: Tue Nov 19, 2024 3:19 pm Did you (or anyone else here) get a chance to test the Arp-Chord preset that's causing stuck notes?
I forgot to mention to make sure you have a limiter on the master as the stuck notes can sometimes be louder than the normal volume of the patch.
Test Arp Chord.zip
I tested the VST2 version inside FLStudio but did not get any stuck notes.

Well I don't know what to tell you then. I can reproduce the issue 100% of the time here in both FL Studio and Waveform Pro even with the latest version of SM3 uploaded yesterday.

Like I posted above try holding an octave with your left hand and playing chords with your right hand and change them up. Eventually that will cause the stuck notes 100% of the time here.

It could be an issue with my system but I don't experience stuck notes in any of the other dozens of synths I own and I use Arp in Chord Mode in every one of them that has the feature without issue.

Another thing I noticed today is that LFO to Osc Detune controlled by Mod Wheel and/or Aftertouch does not seem to work. It works fine for LFO to Pitch.

In the following patch the MW is set to control LFO Volume then LFO to Detune in Osc 1. That seems to have no affect although manually moving the Detune knob back and forth does affect the sound.

In Osc 2 Mw to LFO Volume to Osc Pitch does work. Just mute Osc 1 and unmute Osc 2 to hear the effect.

Test MW to Detune.zip

Also the "Enter Value by Typing" function doesn't seem to mirror the value displayed in the top read out window. For example a typed in value of +0.500 shows as 0.75 in the read out window.

Teksonik · Post by **Teksonik** » Wed Nov 20, 2024 2:55 pm

kv331 wrote: Wed Nov 20, 2024 2:40 pm
Teksonik wrote: Wed Nov 20, 2024 2:33 pm The stuck notes do not occur after recording and playback of midi only in real time play.
FLStudio and any other DAW that does NOT use fixed size audio buffers cause those issues in real time play, with all of our synths. I will try to address this but it's really difficult to debug while playing live.

Sorry, we're cross posting. As per your recommendation I do have SM3 set to "Fixed Size Buffers On" in FL Studio. I don't know if Waveform Pro uses fix size buffers or not.

Since setting SM3 to fixed size buffers on I have not had a crash so far so that's a good thing.

EDIT: I just tried in Bitwig 5.0.11 and got the stuck notes in under 20 seconds.

kv331 · Post by **kv331** » Wed Nov 20, 2024 5:58 pm

Teksonik wrote: Wed Nov 20, 2024 2:55 pm EDIT: I just tried in Bitwig 5.0.11 and got the stuck notes in under 20 seconds.

I am going to test this hopefuly in a couple of days and a fix will follow. I will be off for the next 5 days as I am traveling to Toronto for IMSTA Festa:

https://www.imsta.org/2024_TO.php

Brando · Post by **Brando** » Wed Nov 20, 2024 6:12 pm

Teksonik wrote: Wed Nov 20, 2024 2:55 pm
kv331 wrote: Wed Nov 20, 2024 2:40 pm
Teksonik wrote: Wed Nov 20, 2024 2:33 pm The stuck notes do not occur after recording and playback of midi only in real time play.
FLStudio and any other DAW that does NOT use fixed size audio buffers cause those issues in real time play, with all of our synths. I will try to address this but it's really difficult to debug while playing live.
Sorry, we're cross posting. As per your recommendation I do have SM3 set to "Fixed Size Buffers On" in FL Studio. I don't know if Waveform Pro uses fix size buffers or not.

Since setting SM3 to fixed size buffers on I have not had a crash so far so that's a good thing.

EDIT: I just tried in Bitwig 5.0.11 and got the stuck notes in under 20 seconds.

I just tried this (with Synthmaster 3.0.7) in Studio One V7 in Windows 11 - Stuck notes here too. Confirm

Examigan · Post by **Examigan** » Wed Nov 20, 2024 6:30 pm

kv331 wrote: Wed Nov 20, 2024 5:58 pm
Teksonik wrote: Wed Nov 20, 2024 2:55 pm EDIT: I just tried in Bitwig 5.0.11 and got the stuck notes in under 20 seconds.
I am going to test this hopefuly in a couple of days and a fix will follow. I will be off for the next 5 days as I am traveling to Toronto for IMSTA Festa:

https://www.imsta.org/2024_TO.php

I wish I could go! I’m in Connecticut so it’s a bit too far for me

Teksonik · Post by **Teksonik** » Wed Nov 20, 2024 6:59 pm

Brando wrote: Wed Nov 20, 2024 6:12 pm I just tried this (with Synthmaster 3.0.7) in Studio One V7 in Windows 11 - Stuck notes here too. Confirm

Great, thanks for confirming! At least now I know I'm not (totally) crazy....

Teksonik · Post by **Teksonik** » Wed Nov 20, 2024 7:01 pm

kv331 wrote: Wed Nov 20, 2024 5:58 pm
Teksonik wrote: Wed Nov 20, 2024 2:55 pm EDIT: I just tried in Bitwig 5.0.11 and got the stuck notes in under 20 seconds.
I am going to test this hopefuly in a couple of days and a fix will follow. I will be off for the next 5 days as I am traveling to Toronto for IMSTA Festa:
https://www.imsta.org/2024_TO.php

Ok great, no hurry I'll keep an eye out for any updates. Have a great time!

kv331 · Post by **kv331** » Thu Nov 21, 2024 1:50 pm

Brando wrote: Wed Nov 20, 2024 6:12 pm I just tried this (with Synthmaster 3.0.7) in Studio One V7 in Windows 11 - Stuck notes here too. Confirm

Were you using the arp in chord mode like Teksonik ? did it happen while playing live ?

Brando · Post by **Brando** » Thu Nov 21, 2024 2:39 pm

kv331 wrote: Thu Nov 21, 2024 1:50 pm
Brando wrote: Wed Nov 20, 2024 6:12 pm I just tried this (with Synthmaster 3.0.7) in Studio One V7 in Windows 11 - Stuck notes here too. Confirm
Were you using the arp in chord mode like Teksonik ? did it happen while playing live ?

yes using Teksonik's preset posted above, ( Test Arp Chord.zip ) Synthmaster solo'd playing live from midi controller.

Teksonik · Post by **Teksonik** » Thu Nov 21, 2024 2:56 pm

Just to clarify, I've never had stuck notes with any other play mode in SM3. Only with the Arp set to Chord Mode and while playing live never from sequences notes.

Brando · Post by **Brando** » Thu Nov 21, 2024 3:52 pm

Same - actually I was surprised to get the stuck notes for this little trial, as I never get stuck notes in SM3 ever. Massive big chords, etc are generally no problem.

limeopolis · Post by **limeopolis** » Fri Nov 22, 2024 2:50 am

what are peoples opinions on the preset expansions? worth getting the bundle?

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Brando · Post by **Brando** » Fri Nov 22, 2024 7:24 pm

limeopolis wrote: Fri Nov 22, 2024 2:50 am what are peoples opinions on the preset expansions? worth getting the bundle?

I find they're excellent. Nice range of sounds, especially at the discounted pricing. Even if you're less inclined to be a "preset user" and would rather create your sounds from scratch, I find they can give you a good insight into how to create something and are always a good starting point to build something from.

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