PreSonus Studio One 7 apparently imminent

[EnGee]

I've tried the demo for an hour or so. I even started a song that I might finish within the 30 days!

It is very good. a step up from my v6. I haven't used the clips launcher yet, but I didn't feel a need for it really (I even don't use session view in Ableton Live except when demoing). Not sure though there are enough reasons to upgrade from v6. I would upgrade if there are tons of workflow enhancements and bugs fixes.

Is there a way to collapse Impact's channels in the mixer? I couldn't figure it out (somehing like Drums racks in Live). Not sure if they added extra kits to Impact. I like some kits however and I hope they keep enhancing Impact.

Not sure if I prefer S1 over Cubase (on Windows) or Logic (on Mac). The arrangement workflow is definitely better than Live (for me) and easier to use than Cubase or Logic. Anyway, the other three are more solid and have less strange behaviour than S1, but I hope v7 has fixed many bugs to make S1 stable enough to work with.

[summer2000]

Is there a way to collapse Impact's channels in the mixer? I couldn't figure it out (somehing like Drums racks in Live).

Not sure if Presonus has streamlined the process in v7, but I recall in previous versions the workaround was to drag another VST instrument (any VSTi will do) onto the track with Impact and select combine on the popup window. After that you can edit the muti instrument by deleting the second instrument and you'll be left with the folder track in the mixer containing all the selected output channels for Impact.

[Crossinger]

Is there a way to collapse Impact's channels in the mixer? I couldn't figure it out (somehing like Drums racks in Live). Not sure if they added extra kits to Impact. I like some kits however and I hope they keep enhancing Impact.

They have indeed streamlined the process. The workaround described by summer2000 is no longer needed. It‘s called „Instrument Bus“:

[Stan Navi]

I think Impact have folder icon in Mixer Channel from version 4 or 5, which can collapse subchannels. No need in extra busses.

[EnGee]

Not sure if Presonus has streamlined the process in v7, but I recall in previous versions the workaround was to drag another VST instrument (any VSTi will do) onto the track with Impact and select combine on the popup window. After that you can edit the muti instrument by deleting the second instrument and you'll be left with the folder track in the mixer containing all the selected output channels for Impact.

Thank you! That works with v6 (which I have).

They have indeed streamlined the process. The workaround described by summer2000 is no longer needed. It‘s called „Instrument Bus“:

Thanks! This works Great that they shortened the process.

I think Impact have folder icon in Mixer Channel from version 4 or 5, which can collapse subchannels. No need in extra busses.

Unfortunately I couldn't find such an icon, but when I add it 'instrument bus' I can see the folder icon.


S1 is pulling me once again from Cubase! Both are great DAWs but S1 has this refreshing simplicity and comfort while composing. I might upgrade to v7 next discount (It will be either upgrading Cubase to 14 or S1 to 7, not both!).

[dastewart]

Much easier way to collapse impact channels. Just select it in track view, choose "pack folder" and then add bus to folder.

Bob's your auntie's brother all the impact channels will then be in the folder.

(Edit: I'm on v6)

[EnGee]

Thanks I’ll try that

[BONES]

Firstly by telling existing customers that their perpetual licence is only worth $50. No matter that it would have cost hundreds or even thousands of dollars over the years to have that licence - Presonus only values it at $50.

How is that any different from recent upgrade pricing? It' seems a simple continuation of the way they are always looking to screw their customers over to me.

Secondly, by introducing "new" features that focus very heavily on things that would be of more interest to people who are new to music production and buying their first DAW.

Arrogant much!?! There are plenty of people who've been using Ableton Live for 20+ years, who almost certainly know more about this shit than you or I, and wouldn't think of doing things any other way. And, again, if they were after newbies, why ditch the simplified, easier to understand and learn versions? And way wait 3 or 4 months to offer a demo/trial version?

Most people who's been doing this for a while (e.g. existing customers) will have already chosen their 3rd party instruments and plugins and sample packs which suit them so throwing a whole load of these in with v7 is of little interest unless you're just starting out.

I'd been doing this for 25+ years before I started getting into sample-based instruments. If this new instrument had been added six years ago, it would have saved me a fortune in Kontakt libraries.

[Alchemedia]

Firstly by telling existing customers that their perpetual licence is only worth $50. No matter that it would have cost hundreds or even thousands of dollars over the years to have that licence - Presonus only values it at $50.

How is that any different from recent upgrade pricing? It' seems a simple continuation of the way they are always looking to screw their customers over to me.

Secondly, by introducing "new" features that focus very heavily on things that would be of more interest to people who are new to music production and buying their first DAW.

Arrogant much!?! There are plenty of people who've been using Ableton Live for 20+ years, who almost certainly know more about this shit than you or I, and wouldn't think of doing things any other way. And, again, if they were after newbies, why ditch the simplified, easier to understand and learn versions? And way wait 3 or 4 months to offer a demo/trial version?

Most people who's been doing this for a while (e.g. existing customers) will have already chosen their 3rd party instruments and plugins and sample packs which suit them so throwing a whole load of these in with v7 is of little interest unless you're just starting out.

I'd been doing this for 25+ years before I started getting into sample-based instruments. If this new instrument had been added six years ago, it would have saved me a fortune in Kontakt libraries.

If you are referring to "Cinematic Lights", surely you jest.

[EnGee]

Much easier way to collapse impact channels. Just select it in track view, choose "pack folder" and then add bus to folder.

Bob's your auntie's brother all the impact channels will then be in the folder.

(Edit: I'm on v6)

Not sure if that works!

Also with 'instrument bus', when I collapse the folder in the mixer, Impact channel disappears on the tracks view! Maybe a bug, so the best way still is what summer2000 has suggested.
I hope Presonus finds a sensible way for that.

[dastewart]

Much easier way to collapse impact channels. Just select it in track view, choose "pack folder" and then add bus to folder.

Bob's your auntie's brother all the impact channels will then be in the folder.

(Edit: I'm on v6)

Not sure if that works!

Also with 'instrument bus', when I collapse the folder in the mixer, Impact channel disappears on the tracks view! Maybe a bug, so the best way still is what summer2000 has suggested.
I hope Presonus finds a sensible way for that.

This definitely works for me on v6, just tried it again to check. You end up with all the channels in a folder in mixer view and one track for impact in arranger view.

If you're talking about v7 (where they introduced the instrument bus) then I have no idea because I haven't upgraded.

[EnGee]

Much easier way to collapse impact channels. Just select it in track view, choose "pack folder" and then add bus to folder.

Bob's your auntie's brother all the impact channels will then be in the folder.

(Edit: I'm on v6)

Not sure if that works!

Also with 'instrument bus', when I collapse the folder in the mixer, Impact channel disappears on the tracks view! Maybe a bug, so the best way still is what summer2000 has suggested.
I hope Presonus finds a sensible way for that.

This definitely works for me on v6, just tried it again to check. You end up with all the channels in a folder in mixer view and one track for impact in arranger view.

If you're talking about v7 (where they introduced the instrument bus) then I have no idea because I haven't upgraded.

I packed it to a folder in the track view and then I right clicked on the channel in the mixer and chose 'Add Bus' but nothing happened! It was just a bus added to the mixer! Correct me if I'm doing something wrong. I tried that in v6 and v7. How did you do it?

[dastewart]

Much easier way to collapse impact channels. Just select it in track view, choose "pack folder" and then add bus to folder.

Bob's your auntie's brother all the impact channels will then be in the folder.

(Edit: I'm on v6)

Not sure if that works!

Also with 'instrument bus', when I collapse the folder in the mixer, Impact channel disappears on the tracks view! Maybe a bug, so the best way still is what summer2000 has suggested.
I hope Presonus finds a sensible way for that.

This definitely works for me on v6, just tried it again to check. You end up with all the channels in a folder in mixer view and one track for impact in arranger view.

If you're talking about v7 (where they introduced the instrument bus) then I have no idea because I haven't upgraded.

I packed it to a folder in the track view and then I right clicked on the channel in the mixer and chose 'Add Bus' but nothing happened! It was just a bus added to the mixer! Correct me if I'm doing something wrong. I tried that in v6 and v7. How did you do it?

Ah, ok, I think I see the problem. Once you've packed it to a folder then click on the drop down on the folder track and select "add bus channel". This adds a bus to the folder so the folder becomes the main bus for the impact instrument.

[Chipi]

It looks like we’ll be getting features for composers and beat makers, new sounds, a new sampler, a clip launcher, and an overhauled pattern editor.

You got all that from the pixelated picture mud? You get clearer statements when you read the tea leaves.

Well they weren't wrong. Maybe they should play the lotto they'd be a millionaire.



Got this off of Reddit btw.

I know a Presonus programmer and was able to speak with him at Namm 2025 in Anaheim the other day. What he told me about what's coming in Studio One P7 mid-year left me speechless. It incorporates a SUNO developer engine for song composition (lyrics included) within the DAW but with 4 actual tracks of the track, ie, vocals, bass, keyboard and others will be composed directly separately, so you don't have to do the reverse process of the STEMS. He told me that the quality of each track when generating the 4 tracks you will not be able to believe how good it sounds. We will see in July 2025.

[Resonant- Serpent]

It looks like we’ll be getting features for composers and beat makers, new sounds, a new sampler, a clip launcher, and an overhauled pattern editor.

You got all that from the pixelated picture mud? You get clearer statements when you read the tea leaves.

Well they weren't wrong. Maybe they should play the lotto they'd be a millionaire.



Got this off of Reddit btw.

I know a Presonus programmer and was able to speak with him at Namm 2025 in Anaheim the other day. What he told me about what's coming in Studio One P7 mid-year left me speechless. It incorporates a SUNO developer engine for song composition (lyrics included) within the DAW but with 4 actual tracks of the track, ie, vocals, bass, keyboard and others will be composed directly separately, so you don't have to do the reverse process of the STEMS. He told me that the quality of each track when generating the 4 tracks you will not be able to believe how good it sounds. We will see in July 2025.

They really are aiming for the lowest common denomination if this is true. Do they have any idea of the backlash that will ensue? It'll be the death knell for Presonus, and nothing glorious about it.

Steinberg has already stated that they have zero intentions for adding AI to their products, which is the correct choice.