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Waveform ChangeList

13.3.11
- Shortcuts: Made the "Expand/collapse folder track" shortcut also work with audio tracks to show/hide automation tracks
- Direct2D: Improved the performance of the Direct2D renderer on Windows in certain situations

13.3.10
- Rendering: Fixed a rare crash that could occur if "Render Automatically" is enabled and options are changed quickly

13.3.9
- Rendering: Fixed a rare crash that could occur if "Render Automatically" is enabled and options are changed quickly

13.3.8
- UI: Optimised drawing of EQ displays to prevent slowdowns when the editor is open

13.3.7
- Video: Remove legacy video modes (jadeo & juce)
- MIDI: Show sharps or flats correctly on the MIDI keyboard when fold mode enabled
- Quick Actions: Fixed the colours of the quick action buttons not reflecting the colour scheme
- Edit clips: Fixed EditClips not correctly generating their source Edit's when "Use proxy file" is disabled for the clip

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Seastream wrote: Tue Jan 28, 2025 7:54 pm Waveform ChangeList

13.3.11
- Shortcuts: Made the "Expand/collapse folder track" shortcut also work with audio tracks to show/hide automation tracks
- Direct2D: Improved the performance of the Direct2D renderer on Windows in certain situations

13.3.10
- Rendering: Fixed a rare crash that could occur if "Render Automatically" is enabled and options are changed quickly

13.3.9
- Rendering: Fixed a rare crash that could occur if "Render Automatically" is enabled and options are changed quickly

13.3.8
- UI: Optimised drawing of EQ displays to prevent slowdowns when the editor is open

13.3.7
- Video: Remove legacy video modes (jadeo & juce)
- MIDI: Show sharps or flats correctly on the MIDI keyboard when fold mode enabled
- Quick Actions: Fixed the colours of the quick action buttons not reflecting the colour scheme
- Edit clips: Fixed EditClips not correctly generating their source Edit's when "Use proxy file" is disabled for the clip
Great success! I'm testing WF 13.3.11 on Ubuntu 22.04 lts with ALSA only and it's working without major issues, the only issue is that the "Edit with external editor" feature is not present since the early versions also the "Launch this wave in its default application" is also broken and is unusable, third party VST-3 plugins opens sub menu hidden in the background so I need to move the plugin aside to see the option. I hope one day Waveform could work on Linux the same as in Windows/Mac.

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Version 13.2.0 worked under Windows 8.1, but 13.3.6 and 13.3.11 both install, but fail even before the start banner, with a
"The procedure entry point GetSystemMetricsForDpi could not be located in the dynamic link library c:\program files\tracktion\waveform 13\waveform13.exe". Is there a new Juce .dll assumed that needs to be manually installed?
Waveform 13; Win10 desktop/8 Gig; Win11 Laptop; MPK261; VFX+disfunctional ESQ-1

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cupcakemusic wrote: Wed Jan 29, 2025 3:05 am (...) the only issue is that the "Edit with external editor" feature is not present since the early versions also the "Launch this wave in its default application" is also broken and is unusable
(...).
Maybe the cause is partly a Linux configuration mismatch and not only a Waveform issue?
As asked for it a week ago in another thread (viewtopic.php?p=9030374#p9030374), could you clarify to us how your plain Linux behaves, what happens if you try to open a WAV file by double-clicking on the WAV file entry as listed in your Desktop Environment's file browser, or alike procedure to request opening a WAV file with the regarding MIME type assigned app, without Waveform being involved? It should be assured that the xdg-specs are set fine (https://specifications.freedesktop.org/ ... ec/latest/).
Classical guitar --> Line Audio CM4 @ SSL12 --> KDE-Plasma @ Debian-Linux --> Waveform PRO 13.5

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It'd sure be nice if the Track Presets I made would show up somewhere, preferably when I select the Tracks category. I'd be willing to accept the Presets category.
Surely there must be consensus by now...

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talby wrote: Wed Jan 29, 2025 10:43 am
cupcakemusic wrote: Wed Jan 29, 2025 3:05 am (...) the only issue is that the "Edit with external editor" feature is not present since the early versions also the "Launch this wave in its default application" is also broken and is unusable
(...).
Maybe the cause is partly a Linux configuration mismatch and not only a Waveform issue?
As asked for it a week ago in another thread (viewtopic.php?p=9030374#p9030374), could you clarify to us how your plain Linux behaves, what happens if you try to open a WAV file by double-clicking on the WAV file entry as listed in your Desktop Environment's file browser, or alike procedure to request opening a WAV file with the regarding MIME type assigned app, without Waveform being involved? It should be assured that the xdg-specs are set fine (https://specifications.freedesktop.org/ ... ec/latest/).
This is the error that WF13 reproduces running by terminal:

/bin/sh: 1: /mnt/Data/Waveform Projects/My Rock/Rendered/My Rock Edit 1 Render 2.wav: Exec format error

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Tested today for WF-PRO 13.3.11 in KDE(X11)@Debian12 to work fine:

Edit Audio File - Basic editing operations...
This applies the chosen action correctly.

Edit Audio File - Launch this wave file in its default application...
This opens the default application as configured in KDE/Linux for the XDG MIME type handling of WAV file without problems, there changes are applied and saved to the WAV file and closing that app returns to WF, in WF the changes are found to have been applied to the audio clip (to the file having initially been imported as a copy to the project and carrying the audio of the clip, and subsequently having been edited externally).

Although not being a friend of finding other characters than ASCII letters or numbers or underscore in a file name, I tested for you that both procedures also work fine when exchanging all underscores in my file name to spaces. I did not test to introduce spaces into the directory path, though. However, your error message does not state that the file wouldn't have been found, so it anyway does not look like a problem of path and file name resolution.

Please, what is the output of the following command? Note that your /path/filename has to be placed in quotes ( ' ' ) because of the spaces present in your particular /path/filename.

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xdg-mime query default $(mimetype -M -b '/path/filename')
Classical guitar --> Line Audio CM4 @ SSL12 --> KDE-Plasma @ Debian-Linux --> Waveform PRO 13.5

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talby wrote: Wed Jan 29, 2025 10:07 pm Tested today for WF-PRO 13.3.11 in KDE(X11)@Debian12 to work fine:

Edit Audio File - Basic editing operations...
This applies the chosen action correctly.

Edit Audio File - Launch this wave file in its default application...
This opens the default application as configured in KDE/Linux for the XDG MIME type handling of WAV file without problems, there changes are applied and saved to the WAV file and closing that app returns to WF, in WF the changes are found to have been applied to the audio clip (to the file having initially been imported as a copy to the project and carrying the audio of the clip, and subsequently having been edited externally).

Although not being a friend of finding other characters than ASCII letters or numbers or underscore in a file name, I tested for you that both procedures also work fine when exchanging all underscores in my file name to spaces. I did not test to introduce spaces into the directory path, though. However, your error message does not state that the file wouldn't have been found, so it anyway does not look like a problem of path and file name resolution.

Please, what is the output of the following command? Note that your /path/filename has to be placed in quotes ( ' ' ) because of the spaces present in your particular /path/filename.

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xdg-mime query default $(mimetype -M -b '/path/filename')
Thanks for the advice, The problem was a permission issue because my projects are in a secondary SSD and the "Create and Edit Files" permission was only available to root owner, I fix the issue with "cd ./disk1" and "sudo chown -v $USER /mnt/disk1" also backed up the disk, reformatted as a local disk then it has my user permissions.

However the "edit with external wave editor" is not available the same as is in Windows/Mac, It have the keyboard shortcut but doesn't have the option to choose the external wave editor as in Windows/Mac, it looks like the they coded linux version different in that option.

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Peter Widdicombe wrote: Wed Jan 29, 2025 4:09 am Version 13.2.0 worked under Windows 8.1, but 13.3.6 and 13.3.11 both install, but fail even before the start banner, with a
"The procedure entry point GetSystemMetricsForDpi could not be located in the dynamic link library c:\program files\tracktion\waveform 13\waveform13.exe". Is there a new Juce .dll assumed that needs to be manually installed?
that's odd... seems to be that the beta versions break backwards compatibility with Windows 8.
Ryzen 5 3600 | 32GB | GPU RX 590 | Lewitt Connect 6 + LCT440 Vida | Ubuntu 24.04 LTS / Windows 11 | Waveform 13 PRO | Bitwig 5

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I'm suspecting that new code with enhanced scaling of plugins and the GUI in general is enquiring into the OS to handle various hi-res monitors; but forgetting some environments may not have those OS hooks in place.

I have created a problem request for this.
Waveform 13; Win10 desktop/8 Gig; Win11 Laptop; MPK261; VFX+disfunctional ESQ-1

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cupcakemusic wrote: Thu Jan 30, 2025 12:40 am However the "edit with external wave editor" is not available the same as is in Windows/Mac, It have the keyboard shortcut but doesn't have the option to choose the external wave editor as in Windows/Mac, it looks like the they coded linux version different in that option.
Good to hear that you got it sorted out!

Yes, you are right. The Linux version cannot configure the wished to be used external editor application in WF like it is possible in Windows, but can only call the app which in the Linux system is configured to be the default app for opening WAV files. Nevertheless, if you configure this 'mime type : app assignment' for WAV files in your Linux system for your editor of choice, then it works fine.
Classical guitar --> Line Audio CM4 @ SSL12 --> KDE-Plasma @ Debian-Linux --> Waveform PRO 13.5

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13.3.11 was released through the Product Manager today. The same issue exists that I reported several versions back. The Product Manager says the latest version is installed when it is in fact not. It has to be manually installed which makes a Product Manager kind of pointless.

Also the update broke the Piano Roll Keyboard. Previous versions:

WF Pro 020425-2.png


Version 13.3.11 on two different systems (Win 11 and Win 10)


WF Pro 020425-3.png
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Teksonik wrote: Tue Feb 04, 2025 9:05 pm Also the update broke the Piano Roll Keyboard.
You mean some of the lines not showing up between the keys? It seems to work a bit better when I use software rendering instead of Direct2D, but it should work better than that.
Surely there must be consensus by now...

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It'd sure be nice if the Track Presets I made would show up somewhere...
Looks like any new Track Presets that I make will show up in the Track Presets. Old ones do not.
Surely there must be consensus by now...

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Teksonik wrote: Tue Feb 04, 2025 9:05 pm 13.3.11 was released through the Product Manager today. The same issue exists that I reported several versions back. The Product Manager says the latest version is installed when it is in fact not. It has to be manually installed which makes a Product Manager kind of pointless.

Also the update broke the Piano Roll Keyboard. Previous versions:


WF Pro 020425-2.png



Version 13.3.11 on two different systems (Win 11 and Win 10)



WF Pro 020425-3.png
I'm also experiencing this.
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