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Morty-C-137 wrote: Thu Feb 06, 2025 1:28 pm My free Polymax is just dongle and cloud. No machine auth.
That's actually quite implausible - but either way it's a unique situation in your case then. The rest of us have machine-authorization for it.

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It was part of the Loopcloud giveaway

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jens wrote: Thu Feb 06, 2025 2:04 pm
Morty-C-137 wrote: Thu Feb 06, 2025 1:28 pm My free Polymax is just dongle and cloud. No machine auth.
That's actually quite implausible - but either way it's a unique situation in your case then. The rest of us have machine-authorization for it.
No it's not implausible or rare, but a lot of people have got confused about UA's licensing on their freebies and often give incorrect information. Let me explain:

All the UA-issued freebies come with machine authorisation - that's generally believed to be because there are costs associated with the Cloud license type, which UA doesn't want to bear giving away large amounts of free licenses.

In the case of Polymax, the first "freebie" that people got was a promotion with a Loopcloud subscription. These weren't UA-issue freebie licenses, they were a promotion in association with Loopcloud, and were full, legit, regular Polymax licenses (that presumably Loopcloud had a financial arrangement with UA on). This code was leaked, so a lot of people took advantage of getting their free Polymax - all those Polymax licenses had iLok + Cloud licenses as all the other commercial UADx plugins.

Later on, there was a second giveaway of Polymax - this one was if I remember correctly in association with Plugin Boutique. These *were* UA-issued freebies, and so came with iLok + Machine licensing.

Since those days, UA have issue more freebies, including the LA2A and others, and they have all been iLok + Machine licensing, no Cloud option.

So people have got free Polymax licenses, with different licensing options, for those reasons.

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That explains it then. So their license actually isn't one of the UAD freebies to begin with (i.e. it was not issued by UA) - i.e. we're talking about completely different situations here.

What I meant is: it's quite implausible that someone has an UAD-freebie* that doesn't offer machine authorization.




*i.e. offered/issued/gifted by Universal Audio

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jens wrote: Thu Feb 06, 2025 3:43 pm That explains it then. So their license actually isn't one of the UAD freebies to begin with (i.e. it was not issued by UA) - i.e. we're talking about completely different situations here.

What I meant is: it's quite implausible that someone has an UAD-freebie* that doesn't offer machine authorization.

*i.e. offered/issued/gifted by Universal Audio
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Some of their plug ins are good and some are really not very good at all. As always listen and find our for yourself what you like. One in particular is a complete joke of an emulation. Hard and digital and zero basic tone of the original device, terrible.
Last edited by Synthman2000 on Thu Feb 06, 2025 5:30 pm, edited 1 time in total.

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Which one?

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Not going to be drawn on that.

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You’re the one making the claim. Don’t make it if you can’t or won’t back it up.
THIS MUSIC HAS BEEN MIXED TO BE PLAYED LOUD SO TURN IT UP

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Synthman2000 wrote: Thu Feb 06, 2025 5:30 pm Not going to be drawn on that.
Yeah not buying the BS here either..

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Synthman2000 wrote: Thu Feb 06, 2025 5:30 pm Not going to be drawn on that.
Fair enough. I was just curious and wasn't going to argue about it, but I understand how things tend to go.

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beely wrote: Thu Feb 06, 2025 2:20 pm
jens wrote: Thu Feb 06, 2025 2:04 pm
Morty-C-137 wrote: Thu Feb 06, 2025 1:28 pm My free Polymax is just dongle and cloud. No machine auth.
That's actually quite implausible - but either way it's a unique situation in your case then. The rest of us have machine-authorization for it.
No it's not implausible or rare, but a lot of people have got confused about UA's licensing on their freebies and often give incorrect information. Let me explain:

All the UA-issued freebies come with machine authorisation - that's generally believed to be because there are costs associated with the Cloud license type, which UA doesn't want to bear giving away large amounts of free licenses.

In the case of Polymax, the first "freebie" that people got was a promotion with a Loopcloud subscription. These weren't UA-issue freebie licenses, they were a promotion in association with Loopcloud, and were full, legit, regular Polymax licenses (that presumably Loopcloud had a financial arrangement with UA on). This code was leaked, so a lot of people took advantage of getting their free Polymax - all those Polymax licenses had iLok + Cloud licenses as all the other commercial UADx plugins.

Later on, there was a second giveaway of Polymax - this one was if I remember correctly in association with Plugin Boutique. These *were* UA-issued freebies, and so came with iLok + Machine licensing.

Since those days, UA have issue more freebies, including the LA2A and others, and they have all been iLok + Machine licensing, no Cloud option.

So people have got free Polymax licenses, with different licensing options, for those reasons.
Aha. That makes sense. Also explains why my Pultec (UA issued freebie) is my only machine auth UA plugin.

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Synthman2000 wrote: Thu Feb 06, 2025 5:30 pm Not going to be drawn on that.
Saying something like that here is like calling the Power rangers on you 😆
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jamcat wrote: Thu Feb 06, 2025 7:33 pm You’re the one making the claim. Don’t make it if you can’t or won’t back it up.
I'll freely say what I wish and give as much or as little detail as I wish. Give detail here and there is zero respect anyway so why waste the time bothering ? Those days are over now, learnt my lesson.

You have ears, just use them, you have plenty of hot air to say about a lot of things so you seem cock sure of yourself. And I presume you own all the hardware to make a direct comparison ?

Or you need to be spoon fed due to lack of real knowledge.
TmS1 wrote: Fri Feb 07, 2025 9:49 am
Synthman2000 wrote: Thu Feb 06, 2025 5:30 pm Not going to be drawn on that.
Saying something like that here is like calling the Power rangers on you 😆
Power Rangers ? I guess they are movie action gang, based in fantasy.

Then that makes you spot on.

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Synthman2000 wrote: Fri Feb 07, 2025 10:03 am You have ears, just use them, you have plenty of hot air to say about a lot of things so you seem cock sure of yourself. And I presume you own all the hardware to make a direct comparison ?
A comparaison about what ?

we don't know what you are talking about, nothing prove that even you know it yourself
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