No, the VST doesnt make any sound. Its the Firmware that sounds exactly like the Firmware in the hardware.
What vst sounds closest to the Virus TI?
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- KVRian
- 1238 posts since 29 Sep, 2004
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- KVRAF
- 2052 posts since 13 May, 2004 from Germany
Whatever
- KVRAF
- 18471 posts since 26 Jun, 2006 from San Francisco Bay Area
Come on dude. Are you seriously picking this battle? Injecting a fact makes a statement that the fact is somehow important. I don't understand how this is even an argument. Only an idiot would waste their time adding a fact that's irrelevant. It would be like correcting a post and saying, "the emulation emulates every aspect of the Virus except the weight." Why bother?jens wrote: Mon Feb 17, 2025 11:20 pmWay to dramatically misunderstand my "crappy argument".zerocrossing wrote: Mon Feb 17, 2025 5:42 pmNow you are putting words in the mouth of the poster to make your crappy argument work. There were no adjectives describing the DAC, like, “except for the perfectly transparent DAC.” In your analogy, they just said, “except for clouds.”jens wrote: Mon Feb 17, 2025 2:01 amI can only speak for myself of course, but had they not made that comment, I would have made it. And I have not the first clue about the Virus DAC(s?) and neither do I care.zerocrossing wrote: Mon Feb 17, 2025 12:39 am Well, when you interject with a specific nugget of information, it’s safe to say that you did because you believe that it makes a difference, or else why would you bring it up?
It would simply have been to be more exact - which it is. You can't interpret anything else into it without the other having explicitly stated it.
When you say "there's a cloudless sky today" and I reply with "except for that little cloud over there" you can't interpret that as me saying "it's about to rain".
My argument was that there are no adjectives required. So as crappy as it may have ever been, you understood none of it. It obviously flew miles past your head. I don't know why.
I thought it was pretty simple and it doesn't exactly take a genius to understand it.
Here's a simple fact: The emulation is the complete deal minus the DAC. That's how facts work. It is perfectly possible to observe things without passing any judgement whatsoever.
And *gasp* without the slightest desire to use any adjectives.![]()
I get that half the fun of boards like this for many of you guys is to pass judgement after judgement after judgement on every possible occassion and to look for opportunities left and right to HAVE that argument no matter what, but here it is really getting more silly than usual.
So, to reiterate: OsTIrus is a complete Virus emulation minus the DAC. And that's a fact, even if it eats you up inside - and it's the last thing I will say on the matter.![]()
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- KVRAF
- 18471 posts since 26 Jun, 2006 from San Francisco Bay Area
If you want to get ultra pedantic, the firmware doesn't make any sound either. The thing that makes the sound would be your monitors... or maybe it's your brain because before that it's just sound pressure waves passing through air.adamszabo wrote: Thu Feb 20, 2025 9:41 amNo, the VST doesnt make any sound. Its the Firmware that sounds exactly like the Firmware in the hardware.
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- KVRAF
- 20890 posts since 22 Nov, 2000 from Southern California
This thread talked me into buying TAL DAC.
- KVRAF
- 1746 posts since 3 Nov, 2023
The brain doesn't make the sound, it interprets the sound waves.zerocrossing wrote: Thu Feb 20, 2025 8:06 pmIf you want to get ultra pedantic, the firmware doesn't make any sound either. The thing that makes the sound would be your monitors... or maybe it's your brain because before that it's just sound pressure waves passing through air.adamszabo wrote: Thu Feb 20, 2025 9:41 amNo, the VST doesnt make any sound. Its the Firmware that sounds exactly like the Firmware in the hardware.![]()
How original
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- KVRian
- 1117 posts since 11 Dec, 2020
No vst, no soundzerocrossing wrote: Thu Feb 20, 2025 8:06 pmIf you want to get ultra pedantic, the firmware doesn't make any sound either. The thing that makes the sound would be your monitors... or maybe it's your brain because before that it's just sound pressure waves passing through air.adamszabo wrote: Thu Feb 20, 2025 9:41 amNo, the VST doesnt make any sound. Its the Firmware that sounds exactly like the Firmware in the hardware.![]()
Oh wait a better one
No air, no sound
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- KVRAF
- 1922 posts since 4 Oct, 2016
You should've compared it to Plogue Chipcrusher or Flowtones Bitjuggler. I think TAL DAC sounds quite musical, but the others are more versatile. I think Renoise and Bitwig have awesome built-in bitcrushers!
- KVRAF
- 20890 posts since 22 Nov, 2000 from Southern California
Thanks! I’m more interested in it sounding musical than having versatility. Plus, I got it included with TAL Sampler, which is something I’ve wanted for a long time.
- KVRAF
- 3711 posts since 21 Nov, 2015
Since we are talking DAC, let us please keep in mind that there is a slight difference between a Bitcrusher and a proper DAC - emulation, like Plogue's - chipcrusher and TAL - DAC. One is emulating the internals of a Sampler while the other is emulating the Output - stage, some can do both.
https://tal-software.com/products/tal-dacTAL-DAC emulates the unique sound of vintage digital-to-analog converters, known for their distinct sonic characteristics. These converters were integral to the sound of early digital samplers, adding warmth and color to digital recordings. TAL-DAC faithfully reproduces the subtle imperfections, harmonics, and nonlinearities that give digital audio a vintage vibe and character.
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- KVRAF
- 2895 posts since 24 Nov, 2023
The big thing with both Plogue's Chipcrusher and TAL's DAC that gets missed in these discussions is they are also emulating the analog to digital conversions, the data compression schemes that were used on the actual audio files, and the decompression of those files and conversion back to analog audioEl°HYM wrote: Fri Feb 21, 2025 7:45 am Since we are talking DAC, let us please keep in mind that there is a slight difference between a Bitcrusher and a proper DAC - emulation, like Plogue's - chipcrusher and TAL - DAC. One is emulating the internals of a Sampler while the other is emulating the Output - stage, some can do both.
https://tal-software.com/products/tal-dacTAL-DAC emulates the unique sound of vintage digital-to-analog converters, known for their distinct sonic characteristics. These converters were integral to the sound of early digital samplers, adding warmth and color to digital recordings. TAL-DAC faithfully reproduces the subtle imperfections, harmonics, and nonlinearities that give digital audio a vintage vibe and character.
In the 1970s until the early 1990s digital file storage was extremely expensive and they did a lot of tricks to compress files down often using proprietary methods, or in E-MU'S case with the Emulator series borrowing technology from the telecom industry
All of that was way beyond simply reducing audio down to 8 bits or whatever
- KVRAF
- 3711 posts since 21 Nov, 2015
El°HYM wrote: Tue Feb 18, 2025 5:09 pm Ok, Gentlemen can we now talk about ADC since the DAC thing is getting a bit old.![]()
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- KVRist
- 94 posts since 4 Dec, 2023
Can the Ostirus run on Windows 7? I can't get it to run. There's too much information on the developer's web-site, but not about Windows 7 compatibility. Or I couldn't find it.
Thanks!
Thanks!
