FR: Still no DAW-synced MMultiAnalyzer Wave-Form Mode like in Oszillos Mega Scope or PsyScope???
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- KVRian
- 1281 posts since 3 Jan, 2020
I'm not intentionally twisting your words. I just don't understand your reasoning. What exactly would be cutting edge in your opinion? MMultiAnalyzer with the option to tempo sync the existing oscilloscope would be cutting edge? So MMultiAnalyzer without tempo sync is not cutting edge, but with tempo sync it would be cutting edge?_al_ wrote: Fri Feb 21, 2025 4:41 pm Sigh... and again, twisting peoples words to make them fit your warped opinion of them.
It's the Melda plugins that were cutting edge, and I clearly said that it would only take some minor tweaks like delta and synced oscilloscopes to keep them at the top, where they belong (because they are already way ahead of everyone else in terms of features and flexibility).
If you could quote the part where I said synced oscilloscopes are cutting edge, then fair enough. But failing that, please let's just stop this. I'm sure we both have better things to do.
This thread is about MMultiAnalyzer, right? That's the lens through which I'm trying to understand what you're saying. If you're talking about something else, fair enough. Maybe start a new thread so it is clearer what you're talking about.
If you can make clear how your suggestions improve the plugins, Vojtech might see the merit of your feature request as well and implement it. It's not like he doesn't listen to users at all.
See some recent examples:
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viewtopic.php?t=617493
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- KVRian
- 703 posts since 28 Oct, 2014
Hmm, it seems you are intentionally focusing on this term "cutting edge" because you know that neither delta function or osc tempo sync fall into that category.Held wrote: Fri Feb 21, 2025 5:49 pm I'm not intentionally twisting your words. I just don't understand your reasoning. What exactly would be cutting edge in your opinion? MMultiAnalyzer with the option to tempo sync the existing oscilloscope would be cutting edge? So MMultiAnalyzer without tempo sync is not cutting edge, but with tempo sync it would be cutting edge?
And it seems you think I'm stupid enough to fall for it.
I have made myself quite clear that I was talking about the general Melda philosophy.
It's now Friday evening and I'm going out soon, so if you don't mind, I will bow out gracefully.
Have fun
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- KVRian
- 1281 posts since 3 Jan, 2020
It seems you're making intentionally vague statements so you can dismiss any criticism of them and keep moving the goal post. Have fun with that._al_ wrote: Fri Feb 21, 2025 6:48 pmHmm, it seems you are intentionally focusing on this term "cutting edge" because you know that neither delta function or osc tempo sync fall into that category.Held wrote: Fri Feb 21, 2025 5:49 pm I'm not intentionally twisting your words. I just don't understand your reasoning. What exactly would be cutting edge in your opinion? MMultiAnalyzer with the option to tempo sync the existing oscilloscope would be cutting edge? So MMultiAnalyzer without tempo sync is not cutting edge, but with tempo sync it would be cutting edge?
And it seems you think I'm stupid enough to fall for it.
I have made myself quite clear that I was talking about the general Melda philosophy.
It's now Friday evening and I'm going out soon, so if you don't mind, I will bow out gracefully.
Have fun
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- KVRian
- 915 posts since 2 May, 2015
...fwiw...here ya'go...https://osci-render.com/sosci/...hth.../s~
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 2482 posts since 22 Sep, 2016
Hey steve, nice fancy visualization.steve2KVR wrote: Mon Mar 03, 2025 8:08 pm ...fwiw...here ya'go...https://osci-render.com/sosci/...hth.../s~
My original request is about a synced, multi-in Oscilloscope that helps to visually detect phase cancelation. And I'd say the scope you suggested is only about nice visualisation ... but I admit that I haven't tried your suggestion. Is it synced? does it have multi ins?
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 2482 posts since 22 Sep, 2016
My fun Protoplug/LUA Project still not dead ...
After a few headaches I had to overcome ... the project is still growing.
What's in there?
1.) There's "client" plugins, which collect sample data and send it via TCP/IP to a Receiver
2.) Receiver side receives all inputs of clients and
2.1) computes the sample display, i.e. red and green lines. Kind of quite demanding to do this in a performant fashin in luajit
2.2) computes the rms of the sum of all clients for a bucket (orange lines), where the number of buckets is 16
2.3) compute the "squared difference" of client red and green, displayed in purple. What does that mean? The larger the purple line is, the more different the samples are, i.e. they cancel each other out. Say a and b are pure sines and
- Cancelation case: a = 1 and b = -1 then the squared difference is (1 - -1)², i.e. (1 + 1)².
- Amplify case: a and b are both 1 then, it's (1 - 1)², i.e. 0².
After a few headaches I had to overcome ... the project is still growing.
What's in there?
1.) There's "client" plugins, which collect sample data and send it via TCP/IP to a Receiver
2.) Receiver side receives all inputs of clients and
2.1) computes the sample display, i.e. red and green lines. Kind of quite demanding to do this in a performant fashin in luajit
2.2) computes the rms of the sum of all clients for a bucket (orange lines), where the number of buckets is 16
2.3) compute the "squared difference" of client red and green, displayed in purple. What does that mean? The larger the purple line is, the more different the samples are, i.e. they cancel each other out. Say a and b are pure sines and
- Cancelation case: a = 1 and b = -1 then the squared difference is (1 - -1)², i.e. (1 + 1)².
- Amplify case: a and b are both 1 then, it's (1 - 1)², i.e. 0².
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