MuLab 10.0.85

[Calum]

the only way to open MuLab in full screen mode on a Mac is to hide the Menu Bar and Dock before launching MuLab.

Do you mean the System Preferences to automatically hide and show the menu bar and dock? That's my default so MuLab is full screen but I can show them on top.

Yes, I know that setting exists but I prefer the menu bar to always be visible except when apps are in full screen mode. My AppleScript allows this to happen for any app (not just MuLab) that does not fully utilise full screen mode on a Mac. For others your solution may be all that is required.

[MuTools]

... and one more question (please watch the attached video):

If I insert some Plugin with a sidechain input into a Rack_Module and create an additional Audio_Input wired to it in Rack Modular_Area, then each move of this Plugin from one slot to another results in automatic creation of a new Audio_Input while a previous wire connection gets lost. Was it meant to behave this way? I find it a bit inconvenient since you can't simply reorder the FX chain from Rack front panel without loosing a sidechain wiring. Moreover even after you remove a multiinput plugin all created inputs still remain as a useless garbage.

I'll get back on this asap.

[MuTools]

Here you go, Jo. Tested on a different machine (track ball device), sorry for the jumpy pointer.
-> https://filebin.net/zr0874pclwgiuh4z
Noticed this on a client's remix/remaster reqest @ 44100 (old track). But this time it just played the file faster. However, I was able to recreate the previous issue, by using MuLab's provided stick sample.

I don't see a video there, only an error "No video with supported format..."

[MuTools]

Excuse me for inventing more and more weird tasks for the new v10 Rack module, but that's the way the testing is, isn't it?

Indeed

Another strange things take place when attempting to insert a Module_Slot into a Rack_Slot.

That's an unsupported case.
The fact that you found a way to do that is a bug.
The next update will show an appropriate alert for the case you show in the video.

[ortseam]

I'll get back on this asap.

Thank you so much!

[ortseam]

That's an unsupported case.

One more note on this: Check please also the way MuLab v10 manages MuLab v9 presets containing Plugin_Slot inserted to Rack_Slot. As I can see, this also causes some weird things - Rack_Slot gets transformed into Module_Slot with a "strange behavior".

Thank you!

PS:
And one more thought (I guess, the craziest one ): why Rack_Slots inside Rack_Module can't simply be a Plugin_Slots - just like a Mixer_Strip, which looks like a universal non-specialized module inside a Rack shell?

[pljones]

why Rack_Slots inside Rack_Module can't simply be a Plugin_Slots - just like a Mixer_Strip, which looks like a universal non-specialized module inside a Rack shell?

Rack Slots trigger special behaviour when used in a Rack MUX (in an appropriate way that doesn't break it ). Module Slots don't. Other than that, as far as I know, they should act alike?

[4u610h346]

I don't see a video there, only an error "No video with supported format..."

Here is three, one of them should work.

https://filebin.net/zr0874pclwgiuh4z

https://jumpshare.com/s/ufyByfzMde6M8MMrtpoS

https://streamable.com/mn3cc2

[ortseam]

Rack Slots trigger special behaviour when used in a Rack MUX (in an appropriate way that doesn't break it ). Module Slots don't. Other than that, as far as I know, they should act alike?

As far as I can see, Rack_Slots "live" only inside a Rack_MUX. Moreover, it is they that determine whether MUX is a Rack_MUX or not. If you delete all Rack_Slots from a Rack_MUX it becomes "normal" MUX and I found no way but UNDO to get it back as a Rack_MUX*.

So the content defines MUX module status, not vice versa, which seems to me a bit unclear and inconsistent.

As to me, it would be more natural to have Rack_MUX status as a core primary setting, and make universal Module_Slot behave accordingly inside it, with no need of doubling it with Rack_Slot having almost the same functionality. Just like we have it with Poly_Synth module. Same blocks inside, different outer shell behavior.

UPD: There is such a way really. You just need to insert a new Rack_Slot to a MUX and it becomes Rack.

[MuTools]

I don't see a video there, only an error "No video with supported format..."

Here is three, one of them should work.

https://filebin.net/zr0874pclwgiuh4z

https://jumpshare.com/s/ufyByfzMde6M8MMrtpoS

https://streamable.com/mn3cc2

The video now plays but i'm sorry to say this type of "moving view" video is unwatchable for me, this almost caused me an epileptic seizure Please simply do a full screen recording

From the couple of fragments i could see (before the epileptic seizure) are you sure you know how Audio Sequences work? They will slice the audio and play them in sync with the tempo, unless you indicate you don't want that.
See https://www.mutools.com/info/M10/docs/m ... ences.html

[4u610h346]

The video now plays but i'm sorry to say this type of "moving view" video is unwatchable for me, this almost caused me an epileptic seizure Please simply do a full screen recording

Will do.

From the couple of fragments i could see (before the epileptic seizure) are you sure you know how Audio Sequences work? They will slice the audio and play them in sync with the tempo, unless you indicate you don't want that.

Sorry, the saved project is already set to 120bpm, and the duplicating effort was at 128bpm.

See https://www.mutools.com/info/M10/docs/m ... ences.html

It has more options than I need (for this project). But it is also the most flexible tool, for what I need. I do thank you for pointing that out to me. Its a good read. I keep a copy locally.

The /samples/drums/rimsticks/sticks.org example I offered, is not a good example. The reverb-ish sound is likely the outcome of stretching.

The issue I am having, is added echo (at same tempo/no stretch), crackling beginning beginning halfway through (the added sequenced audio), and the audio panning to one side. I can't seem to force, duplicate it. When it happens, I can close and re-open the application. and it will still occur. Then next day, its fine (even though the machine was not restarted, or logged out of). It doesn't happen often.

I'll have to just wait, and screen capture right when it happens (full view).

[4u610h346]

So here is one I ran into, tonight. When it pans to one side (example not available, yet) it sometimes sounds like the provided example.

If this is just how things work, I've worked around this by creating the sample clip with an external editor (added the same way, from the user library). As of yet, none of the distortions have occurred, when adding these work around samples to the audio sequencer.

https://filebin.net/v3pj6p1guxs4jdpe/new.mp4

https://jumpshare.com/s/3rP368mrTvYqlBwdNn1Z

https://streamable.com/la7nvt

This particular project is on the back side of productivity, but I pick at it a little every night. I'll upload only events that differ in interesting ways. I would not say this is an extreme example. Note: the source media is 120bpm, but there may be very small amounts of stretching (once added to the audio sequencer).

Also, I have had MuSamplu do the same thing. However, I never hear it unless I render that track or export the mix. In those events I used "stretch", a lot.

[MuTools]

So here is one I ran into, tonight.

What you here is the stretching algorithm applied on the full sample as you seemed to have created an Audio Sequence without slicing.
If you tell MuLab to slice the dropped sample into an Audio Sequence then each slice will be stretched individually and that will sound much better, much more like you expect.
See these 2 preferences: "Auto Create Transient Markers" and "Auto Snap New Audio Sequence Length".

[MuTools]

why Rack_Slots inside Rack_Module can't simply be a Plugin_Slots - just like a Mixer_Strip, which looks like a universal non-specialized module inside a Rack shell?

Rack Slots trigger special behaviour when used in a Rack MUX (in an appropriate way that doesn't break it ). Module Slots don't. Other than that, as far as I know, they should act alike?

Yes that's correct.

[MuTools]

MuLab App M10.0.48 beta is available on https://www.mutools.com/mulab/app/lates ... /beta.html

MuLab Plugin M10.0.48 beta is available on https://www.mutools.com/mulab/plugin/la ... /beta.html

What's changed:

• You can now insert a Module Slot into a Rack Slot.
  This also indirectly supports creating a fixed IO setup for a Rack Slot.
• LFOs now show an animated dot that indicates the current play position.
• The "Full Screen" option added in M10.0.47 now is Windows only.
• There were some practical issues with the Mixer Strip editor when used in a Rack Slot or Module Slot. Fixed.
• Several of the changes listed in the M10.0.47 change log were not yet applied to the Mac version. Fixed.
• Inserting a Mixer Strip into a Rack Slot could lead to a crash. Fixed.
• Other small improvements.