Zebra 3 and Zebra Legacy

[MorpherX]

If there comes a Zebra3 beta will then also Zebrallette3 be updated ?

Did you notice that it has just been updated with a second beta and lots of improvements?

Thanks I saw it, but 03.04.25 is not 03.11.25.
I thought on a Zebralette3 when Zebra3 (beta) is released in Q4 or so.

[Urs]

I'm optimistic that a Zebralette 3 release happens before a Zebra 3 release, or at least coincide with a Zebra 3 beta.

[MorpherX]

I'm optimistic that a Zebralette 3 release happens before a Zebra 3 release, or at least coincide with a Zebra 3 beta.

Aah O.K., thanks !
Sometimes it is not necessary to use the big flagship (Zebra3) for little and short seque-sounds, then I like to use the little brother (Zebralette3).
Beside this, Zebralette2 was the reason why I bought some U-He synths and effects.
If the free Zebralette3 is good or even very good, I am shure that you get some new customers.

[Uppity]

I appreciate, that arps and sequencers won't be there! I always find them useless, I have a DAW with arps and sequencers and usually skip all presets with those elements... I want to create my movements myself...

Well, hehehe, they won't be absent forever. But I want them to integrate nicely in the overall architecture. Not necessarily to replace what the DAW does, more like something to complement it and maybe have some live tweakable elements to them. A DAW only ever has MIDI, MPE or similar things it can send to a synth, but a synth like Zebra can have internal wires that can go beyond what "playing a note" is. Which might not suit everyone's needs, but I'd like to at least offer the possibility for those who wish to make use of it

Glad to hear some sort of arp/sequencer will be part of Zebra 3 eventually. The mod-mapper looks interesting, and I want to try playing around with it some more in a Zebra legacy demo, but it seems like a different kind of entity. Maybe I just don't fully understand it. I like being able to set up 32+ step phrases whose velocities, pitches, and some adjustable gate control can be programmed simultaneously within software instruments. I hope this will be an eventual capability within Zebra 3.

[Urs]

I appreciate, that arps and sequencers won't be there! I always find them useless, I have a DAW with arps and sequencers and usually skip all presets with those elements... I want to create my movements myself...

Well, hehehe, they won't be absent forever. But I want them to integrate nicely in the overall architecture. Not necessarily to replace what the DAW does, more like something to complement it and maybe have some live tweakable elements to them. A DAW only ever has MIDI, MPE or similar things it can send to a synth, but a synth like Zebra can have internal wires that can go beyond what "playing a note" is. Which might not suit everyone's needs, but I'd like to at least offer the possibility for those who wish to make use of it

Glad to hear some sort of arp/sequencer will be part of Zebra 3 eventually. The mod-mapper looks interesting, and I want to try playing around with it some more in a Zebra legacy demo, but it seems like a different kind of entity. Maybe I just don't fully understand it. I like being able to set up 32+ step phrases whose velocities, pitches, and some adjustable gate control can be programmed simultaneously within software instruments. I hope this will be an eventual capability within Zebra 3.

The Mapper as it is in Zebra 3 is not (yet) part of Zebra Legacy. Only a previous version is, with a lesser editor and without the actual sequencing capabilities.

It is in the current Uhbik beta though, which is where we first developed it into a sequencer (on top of the original uses, which it still has).

The point of it is that, in itself, it's fairly stupid. It needs another modulation source, such as a LFO, the keyboard, an envelope or a wheel, whose signal it will take and transform into something else.

What's new is the completely reworked editor, which is a huge step forward and much more fun to work with, and the option to tyke a rhythmic signal (e.g. an LFO...) and use it as a clock to proceed through the steps.

[Uppity]

I appreciate, that arps and sequencers won't be there! I always find them useless, I have a DAW with arps and sequencers and usually skip all presets with those elements... I want to create my movements myself...

Well, hehehe, they won't be absent forever. But I want them to integrate nicely in the overall architecture. Not necessarily to replace what the DAW does, more like something to complement it and maybe have some live tweakable elements to them. A DAW only ever has MIDI, MPE or similar things it can send to a synth, but a synth like Zebra can have internal wires that can go beyond what "playing a note" is. Which might not suit everyone's needs, but I'd like to at least offer the possibility for those who wish to make use of it

Glad to hear some sort of arp/sequencer will be part of Zebra 3 eventually. The mod-mapper looks interesting, and I want to try playing around with it some more in a Zebra legacy demo, but it seems like a different kind of entity. Maybe I just don't fully understand it. I like being able to set up 32+ step phrases whose velocities, pitches, and some adjustable gate control can be programmed simultaneously within software instruments. I hope this will be an eventual capability within Zebra 3.

The Mapper as it is in Zebra 3 is not (yet) part of Zebra Legacy. Only a previous version is, with a lesser editor and without the actual sequencing capabilities.

It is in the current Uhbik beta though, which is where we first developed it into a sequencer (on top of the original uses, which it still has).

The point of it is that, in itself, it's fairly stupid. It needs another modulation source, such as a LFO, the keyboard, an envelope or a wheel, whose signal it will take and transform into something else.

What's new is the completely reworked editor, which is a huge step forward and much more fun to work with, and the option to tyke a rhythmic signal (e.g. an LFO...) and use it as a clock to proceed through the steps.

Thanks for your reply! What you describe sounds interesting. I'll check it out on the Uhbik beta. And, of course, I'll look forward to Zebra 3!

[vurt]

Well, Excel 2022 is able to open an old excel 97 xls file. Not perfectly, OK
But if Z3 could at least place its existing modules in a Z3 instance, opening a Z2 patch, it could help a lot.
It's like when Cubase or Reaper open a project in a computer where you don't have a given plugin : it makes an empty slot where it says "plugin missing", but at least, gives you the track's midi notes.

Yeah it would be nice and I personally would love to load Z2 preset in Z3 but I think many people really have this thought because it's code-named "Zebra 3" from what I read so far, it's not really exactly a 100% successor of Zebra 2 but more of a new synth built around the concept of Zebra 2

I think it's not too late to switch the name to Okapi

a sign perhaps?

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[WalterH]

Hello Mr.Urs! Can you post little update on Zebra 3 ? At least something, how's it going ?
In previous post, some months ago it was like that:
"So with some luck we'll have a public beta in Q4 2025, maybe even a release before the end of the year."
Can we still expect public beta in Q4 ?

Thanks for answer down below!
Zebra rules !!!

[Urs]

Hello Mr.Urs! Can you post little update on Zebra 3 ? At least something, how's it going ?
In previous post, some months ago it was like that:
"So with some luck we'll have a public beta in Q4 2025, maybe even a release before the end of the year."
Can we still expect public beta in Q4 ?

Yes, it's looking good for that.

During recent weeks we have mostly moved from feature implementation to bug fixing and polishing, while we're working with a team of sound designers to build the factory library. During this stage we'll also move a few things around, and make a few final decisions, e.g. whether or not MSEGs can be sources for VCAs.

A few supplementary modules yet need to be added, such as EQ and compressor. We figured these are not needed during early sound design stages. We think we'll have those by the end of August.

By October we hope to move from fixing bugs to optimisation and UX improvements, and filling gaps in the factory library. This is probably also the time where start creating tutorial videos and promotional content.

If all goes well, we hope to release this year, and do a public beta in the 4-6 weeks before that.

However, we also have to release Uhbik 2.0 eventually, so it's a lot of juggling resources atm, and not always easy to decide what to prioritise when.

[Shiek927]

How does it feel to almost be at the finish line after over a decade, Urs?

[Urs]

How does it feel to almost be at the finish line after over a decade, Urs?

Really, really exhausting

[seafire]

How does it feel to almost be at the finish line after over a decade, Urs?

Nearly two!

[aMUSEd]

How does it feel to almost be at the finish line after over a decade, Urs?

Really, really exhausting

It's appreciated

[Urs]

How does it feel to almost be at the finish line after over a decade, Urs?

Nearly two!

If you consider that the first evidence of people asking for Z3 was *before* Zebra 2 was released in 2006, then yes, nearly 20 years.

But the first time we sat down and thought about it was 2012. That's just 13 years ago.

[MrJubbly]

If you consider that the first evidence of people asking for Z3 was *before* Zebra 2 was released in 2006, then yes, nearly 20 years.

Well then, let's keep that tradition going ... I cannot wait for Zebra 4 !!!

Long live u-he!