wheres fade down a bit at different times through the tracks? doesn't seem to have a track spline to do this,,,
Don't tell me ya gotta try and do this with automation,,,I like fading tracks up and down alot ,but not all the way out.
tracktion,,,I see fade in and fade out,,but
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- KVRAF
- 6740 posts since 25 Mar, 2002 from sheffield, england
How else would you do it?vtx wrote: Don't tell me ya gotta try and do this with automation
Tracktion's automation rocks btw..
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- KVRAF
- 6740 posts since 25 Mar, 2002 from sheffield, england
Tip: add another Vol / Pan filter to your track. Now you can automate the first (drag the little A symbol over to it) and leave the second for normal mixing duties.. 
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- KVRAF
- 3364 posts since 16 Feb, 2004 from atop a katamari
i don't know what your problem with using the automation is?
the automation lines are the 'track splines' you're looking for, altho they are line based and don't do curves.
drag the 'A' square (top right hand corner of the track in the arrange view, just left of the filters) onto the volume/pan control. you'll have an editable line with which you can change the level over the course of the track. if it's too coarse a snap to edit with, as usual with tracktion, just zoom in to get more precise.
also, if you want to keep your current automation, but lower/raise the overall level, simply add another vol/pan filter afterwards. you could automate that too if you liked.
i'm sorry if this seems to be ignoring your request to not suggest automation, but i can't understand what else you might be talking about!
perhaps you mean 'at different times through the CLIPS?'. in which case, this isn't something that can really be done in T1, but you can copy and paste automation data around the track by using the I/O markers to select a region. just make sure you have the automation line selected and you can click the copy/paste buttons in the properties panel.
the automation lines are the 'track splines' you're looking for, altho they are line based and don't do curves.
drag the 'A' square (top right hand corner of the track in the arrange view, just left of the filters) onto the volume/pan control. you'll have an editable line with which you can change the level over the course of the track. if it's too coarse a snap to edit with, as usual with tracktion, just zoom in to get more precise.
also, if you want to keep your current automation, but lower/raise the overall level, simply add another vol/pan filter afterwards. you could automate that too if you liked.
i'm sorry if this seems to be ignoring your request to not suggest automation, but i can't understand what else you might be talking about!
perhaps you mean 'at different times through the CLIPS?'. in which case, this isn't something that can really be done in T1, but you can copy and paste automation data around the track by using the I/O markers to select a region. just make sure you have the automation line selected and you can click the copy/paste buttons in the properties panel.Kick, punch, it's all in the mind.
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- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 1103 posts since 19 Apr, 2004 from Trent Severn WaterWay
With level/pan splines through each track,a midi controller would be nice for automating fades ,but I don't got.platinumears wrote:How else would you do it?vtx wrote: Don't tell me ya gotta try and do this with automation
Tracktion's automation rocks btw..
If you do try fades with a mouse and it doesn't happen smoothly or its faded down too far ,how would you go back and fix that?
Just new to it so I may be missing obvious things
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- KVRAF
- 6740 posts since 25 Mar, 2002 from sheffield, england
Each track has a little "A" icon top right. Drag this to the filter you want to automate (or who's automation you want to edit) and choose the parameter from the list. The automation will then appear as lines & breakpoints, and can be easily edited.
You don't have to edit this on the same track either.. create a new empty track if that will make things easier.
You don't have to edit this on the same track either.. create a new empty track if that will make things easier.
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- KVRAF
- 3364 posts since 16 Feb, 2004 from atop a katamari
yeah, that's something that the T2 wishlist has been singing for... the automation system is fine but the lines you draw don't move with the clips.
like i said tho, you can get around this by copying and pasting the automation lines separately to clip movements/copies. a hassle, true, but the only real workaround atm.
like i said tho, you can get around this by copying and pasting the automation lines separately to clip movements/copies. a hassle, true, but the only real workaround atm.
Kick, punch, it's all in the mind.
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- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 1103 posts since 19 Apr, 2004 from Trent Severn WaterWay
Got it 
had the volume filter in the wrong place,had to be just before the meters and read automation on,,
thats workable, even without a curved line.
thanx alot guys
had the volume filter in the wrong place,had to be just before the meters and read automation on,,thats workable, even without a curved line.
thanx alot guys
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- KVRAF
- 3441 posts since 15 Mar, 2003
You can record the automation live by selecting the small a near the transport buttons.
Play the track and tweak the track volume how you want and it will be recorded.
You can undo and re-record if you don't get it the way you want the first time.
Play the track and tweak the track volume how you want and it will be recorded.
You can undo and re-record if you don't get it the way you want the first time.
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- KVRist
- 195 posts since 31 Dec, 2004
You could, if you want sudden changes in volume, also cut your clip where you want the change. Then you could change the gain on the clip itself.
I like the automation route better though.
I like the automation route better though.
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- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 1103 posts since 19 Apr, 2004 from Trent Severn WaterWay
getting along quite well with the lines,,feel kinda stupid now
I'm gunna try bringin 10 tracks from Orion in and fade like crazy.
I'll make changes in the piece by bringing different instruments in and out,,,
never really learned structure that well...
I'm gunna try bringin 10 tracks from Orion in and fade like crazy.
I'll make changes in the piece by bringing different instruments in and out,,,
never really learned structure that well...
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- KVRAF
- 3745 posts since 29 Sep, 2002 from Killafornia
Thats probably how I would do it. I like it better bacuase it goes with the clip if I need to move it. And you can choose what type of fade you want.Todd24 wrote:You could, if you want sudden changes in volume, also cut your clip where you want the change. Then you could change the gain on the clip itself.
