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_leras wrote: Fri Aug 29, 2025 5:09 am
pc999 wrote: Thu Aug 28, 2025 1:52 am We need more scales, exotic one and custom ones :!:
I think this may be a Bitwig editor first and techno type scale implementation.

The more exotic tunings (and via scala?) are already available via Micropitch.

Should they or could they combine them both?
I didn't even know about the Micropitch device! How the hell have I missed that, doh.

Makes me think I probably don't know half (or more) of what's going on in Bitwig.

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Can the automation in automation clips be modulated? I haven't figured out how, for the time being (if possible). I would like to attenuate the automation so that I can morph from 0% to 100%.

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muzicxs wrote: Fri Aug 29, 2025 6:39 am Can the automation in automation clips be modulated? I haven't figured out how, for the time being (if possible). I would like to attenuate the automation so that I can morph from 0% to 100%.
You can have Parameter A be automated. Then you can also modulate Parameter A via a Macro knob.

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pdxindy wrote: Fri Aug 29, 2025 6:44 am
muzicxs wrote: Fri Aug 29, 2025 6:39 am Can the automation in automation clips be modulated? I haven't figured out how, for the time being (if possible). I would like to attenuate the automation so that I can morph from 0% to 100%.
You can have Parameter A be automated. Then you can also modulate Parameter A via a Macro knob.
Ah, your suggestion opened my mind. I didn't realize you can also automate a macro knob and use that to modulate a math modulator. By multiplying the incoming automation signal, you can easily go from 0% to 100% and attenuate the automation.

Bitwig is so powerful! :)

Thanks for your suggestion!
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It also made me realize that the people asking for an automation modulator can already do this. Just modulate a macro knob with an automation clip and there's your automation modulator. And the great thing is that this'll work for all levels: project, group and instrument!

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muzicxs wrote: Fri Aug 29, 2025 7:15 am It also made me realize that the people asking for an automation modulator can already do this. Just modulate a macro knob with an automation clip and there's your automation modulator. And the great thing is that this'll work for all levels: project, group and instrument!
Just can also just automate the Math modulator directly, removing the need directly for a macro knob. You're correct that the Math modulator is actually the best answer to what we were looking for.

However, I would just note that it would still be nice to have similar functionality directly in the automation lanes/clips - multiple clips for the same parameter, with a clip having the 'math' option on it directly - just for the way that it works in some people heads (for me at least). You're correct that it can absolutely be achieved right now in the way that has been described, as can many things in Bitwig (which is what makes it so great, especially for modulation), but it would just be a nice 'enhancement' in my opinion to have a 'direct' path. Usability can always be improved.

Either way, it is crazy powerful and really opens up further (and more *obviously*) the flexibility of what was already great.

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What happens when you open a project using multiplier automation in version 6, is that automation just dropped/lost, or converted in some way?

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Dionysos wrote: Fri Aug 29, 2025 8:32 am What happens when you open a project using multiplier automation in version 6, is that automation just dropped/lost, or converted in some way?
What do you mean by multiplier automation? Are you talking of having an automated macro driving many different automations?
In this case it is perfectly compatible with 6. But I may be missing something.

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I meant the relative automation mode that was removed from version 6. I only ever used it once and don't remember which project, so can't check myself.

https://www.bitwig.com/userguide/latest ... automation

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I have to say, having a lot of alias clips in a big project, all those paper clips look ridiculous. A better icon for alias clips is needed IMO... a square or a dot would be better than that paper clip.

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For those who have extensively used it, how stable is the beta? I've got a renewal code ready to use and I'm wondering if I should wait to use it. Thanks

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Ghostwave wrote: Fri Aug 29, 2025 9:06 am For those who have extensively used it, how stable is the beta? I've got a renewal code ready to use and I'm wondering if I should wait to use it. Thanks
On mac it crashed already, but very likely next week there will be a first stability update and most prominent bug fixes.
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Ghostwave wrote: Fri Aug 29, 2025 9:06 am For those who have extensively used it, how stable is the beta? I've got a renewal code ready to use and I'm wondering if I should wait to use it. Thanks
Used it quite a few hours on Linux and it seems robust. I only had one time that i could not stop transport from my Launchkey and from my spacebar and not with mouse to stop it from the GUI.

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muzicxs wrote: Fri Aug 29, 2025 7:15 am It also made me realize that the people asking for an automation modulator can already do this. Just modulate a macro knob with an automation clip and there's your automation modulator. And the great thing is that this'll work for all levels: project, group and instrument!
In V6 you can also make a time selection in an automation lane and drag that as a curve into a Curves modulator. It also works the other way, you can drag any saved modulation Curves into an automation lane.

So that is one way to save a bunch of favorite automation curves and to swap back and forth between between modulation and automation.

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koalaboy wrote: Fri Aug 29, 2025 8:28 am Just can also just automate the Math modulator directly, removing the need directly for a macro knob.
You're absolutely correct, thanks man!
koalaboy wrote: Fri Aug 29, 2025 8:28 am You're correct that the Math modulator is actually the best answer to what we were looking for.
Yeah, I think this is a very easy way to branch out into much more advanced possibilities.
koalaboy wrote: Fri Aug 29, 2025 8:28 am However, I would just note that it would still be nice to have similar functionality directly in the automation lanes/clips - multiple clips for the same parameter, with a clip having the 'math' option on it directly - just for the way that it works in some people heads (for me at least).
I do see that there's some kind of inconvenience, as you now need to explicitly add a math modulator to attenuate the automation signal. For me it's not the end of the world, though. I'm super happy with your tip that I can use only a single modulator instead of two :)

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