Problem: Recorded Audio Offset, WF 13.5 on Win 11 Pro

[DaveL60]

Problem: Using the current version of Waveform (13.5.8, 64-bit), when I record an audio clip the audio content of the clip is delayed from where I started playing by two bars, with a large silent space at the beginning of the clip and the audio appearing truncated at the end until I adjust the endpoint. I've seen several older threads here regarding recorded audio being offset / delayed from its correct position (thread 1 / thread 2), but they aren't helping me. Waveform is the only DAW I'm running so I can't report if this differs from other DAWs.

Setup: I'm recording through a Yamaha AG06 mixer / audio interface using the Yamaha Steinberg USB Audio driver (I haven't tried switching to ASIO4ALL). The computer is a recent model GEEKOM mini-PC running Win11 Pro. I record at 48K by default since I'm often contributing to a friend's projects that are published as videos. I've run the input latency compensation process described in Chapter 4 of the manual but there's still consistently an offset in the resulting audio clip.

I've been just living with this for a while but would really like to identify a stable solution so I can focus more on recording and less on fixing weird problems.

[pough]

I feel like I've seen this or something like it before, but I can't remember the cause. Can we assume that you've tried a bunch of settings already, or are you just starting to try to pin it down?

1. Reboot
2. Record at something other than 48k
3. Make sure there are no plugins when recording
4. Audio input "Trigger level" is -INF
5. Audio input "Time adjust" is relatively close to 0
6. Audio device "Audio buffer size" isn't too big
7. Use a different audio device and/or audio device type

[DaveL60]

I feel like I've seen this or something like it before, but I can't remember the cause. Can we assume that you've tried a bunch of settings already, or are you just starting to try to pin it down?

1. Reboot
2. Record at something other than 48k
3. Make sure there are no plugins when recording
4. Audio input "Trigger level" is -INF
5. Audio input "Time adjust" is relatively close to 0
6. Audio device "Audio buffer size" isn't too big
7. Use a different audio device and/or audio device type

You definitely have; I linked to two related threads but they're both for older versions and I think one was on Linux. In at least one of those the problem magically cured itself and in the other IIRC updating to a newer version fixed the problem.

I've tried a few settings but haven't been systematic about tracking settings and results. For your list:
1 - My machine is booted fresh every session.
2 - Should try that
3 - Assuming you mean plugins on the track being recorded: there aren't any
4, 5, 6 - I think these are all true but I should double-check
7 - I only have one audio interface so that's not really possible.

[pough]

3 - Assuming you mean plugins on the track being recorded: there aren't any

I mean ALL plugins. They're software. They do stuff. Sometimes some plugins do things we don't want them to do. Rule them out.

7 - I only have one audio interface so that's not really possible.

But you can choose other other device types (ie. ASIO vs DirectSound vs Windows Audio) and also different drivers.

[Watchful]

The Steinberg driver is a complex beast. I have it but won't use it. Definitely try switching to a different driver and see if the latency clears up.

[DaveL60]

I've swapped over to the latest ASIO4All driver, which seems to have helped (once I give it adequate buffer). Things are certainly better but I'm not prepared to declared "fixed". OTOH I think I can focus on recording again.

[Watchful]

Good news! Now you have to get back to having fun. Thanks for updating us on your situation

[DaveL60]

So a couple of minor problems with running ASIO4ALL

1. ASIO4ALL is only offering 44.1 Khz (and multiples) as sample rates. 48 Khz doesn't appear as an option, whereas it's readily available with the Yamaha Steinberg ASIO driver.
2. I can only get audio output from either Waveform or the web browser, whichever I launch first. The application launched second is apparently unable to access the audio output device.

Any thoughts?

[DaveL60]

Follow-up: never mind. I learned from web searching that #1 can be fixed by turning off Windows sounds and from the ASIO4ALL website that #2 is "by design". So all good.