Zebra 3 Public Beta Revision 20399
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- KVRist
- 60 posts since 31 Aug, 2023
Would appreciate if you could add this option to Zebra3 and later to the other plugins as well. It modifies the init preset loaded whenever the synth is initialized. Right now relying on saving it as an Ableton preset after setting the parameters to the values I prefer and locking them.
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- u-he
- Topic Starter
- 30180 posts since 8 Aug, 2002 from Berlin
Hehehe, it seems we have to clarify this a lot... most of our customer support today is this question.abstractcats wrote: Thu Dec 11, 2025 2:39 pm Also, just to clarify, how long do you have to own Zebra Legacy, to get the free / or discounded upgrade, to Zebra 3?
I believe this has been explainde but I've lost the post about that, sorry.
So when Zebra Legacy came out as a product, it replaced Zebra 2 as a product. In the news for it, in forum posts and pretty much everywhere else we were clear that once Zebra Legacy became available, we would *not* include an upgrade path to Zebra 3:
However, due to the frequent questions about it we *might* be offering a coupon code once Zebra 3 is released. But this coupon code, should we offer it, would certainly be less than 70€ towards Zebra 3. Hence, the current pre-order discount (179€ instead of 249€) is the best price possible for some time to come, also for owners of a Zebra Legacy license.u-he website wrote:As Zebra Legacy is such a bargain, we will not be offering a Zebra3 upgrade path from the new 99 € licenses.
- u-he
- Topic Starter
- 30180 posts since 8 Aug, 2002 from Berlin
- u-he
- Topic Starter
- 30180 posts since 8 Aug, 2002 from Berlin
Just save a preset called "default" (with the .h2p ending) in the root folder ("Local") of the preset library. Works for all u-he plug-ins.reppinghades wrote: Thu Dec 11, 2025 2:52 pm Screenshot 2025-12-11 201229.png
Would appreciate if you could add this option to Zebra3 and later to the other plugins as well. It modifies the init preset loaded whenever the synth is initialized. Right now relying on saving it as an Ableton preset after setting the parameters to the values I prefer and locking them.
- KVRAF
- 3034 posts since 6 Jul, 2013
I don't want to get into the weeds here but no, there is a difference between a control surface in Logic, and a generic MIDI controller - one device can't be both, and when you've got seamless intelligent plugin control, going back to manual/dumb generic MIDI, whether that's adding or switching to another MIDI controller device, or having to manually switch controller modes and templates, is not a solution. These is good reason I was asking for the specific request.Viktor [TUC] wrote: Thu Dec 11, 2025 7:38 am Your controllers sends MIDI, so you can easily tell Zebra3 which MIDI CCs you want to connect to Control A-D and you're done, realtime control of these performance controls. And these are then recorded (or drawn like automation) in the MIDI clip.
But Urs has already said likely these controls will become automatable, which is all I was asking/hoping for, so we're good!
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- KVRian
- 1315 posts since 23 May, 2016
I'm loving what I'm seeing already. All in all a great update, with workflow enhancements and better GUI.
Here a short feedback in case anyone is interested
Bug:
- WIP filter selector does not open for Filters in Bus section
- Switching between Curve and Curve Spectrum stopped sound in rare cases
Great:
- Module selector when clicking on empty module slot (would also love a Module selector in the FX section (I don't like these drop downs
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- Mod Matrix
- unified filter selector (WIP)
Could be improved:
- MSEG editor is just too technical with the icons on the left. which are not self explanatory and cryptic. I know Documentation is there, but I've seen (easier) implementations at eg. CableGuys. Although I know Z3 is far more complex of course. Possibly the skin could be enhanced with some text (without having to hover) or a on mouse over help (which could be turned off by pros)
- Screen space is very limited. I know where Z3 is coming from, but on a 1440p monitor I'd love to resize the interface, that I'd see more horizontal space for Bus modules and more vertical space for lane modules (on the left and right of the module flow). I hope a future skin or resizable function could add this
Feature Requests:
- Module selector in the FX section (similar to the one in the module lane)
- Module presets (especially for effects, but also welcome for other modules. Eg. to have pre-setup vintage synth like envelopes)
- more screen space skin (said above)
- I know this probably a design decision, but I'd love to have knobs for selection of timebase in LFO
- Readout of values is limited to the top. I'd really love if it could be readable at the knob/fader when changing values. Eg. Softube does this already, and it would improve workflow, as we wouldn't have to look from the knob to the top all the time to get the current value
Here a short feedback in case anyone is interested
Bug:
- WIP filter selector does not open for Filters in Bus section
- Switching between Curve and Curve Spectrum stopped sound in rare cases
Great:
- Module selector when clicking on empty module slot (would also love a Module selector in the FX section (I don't like these drop downs
- Mod Matrix
- unified filter selector (WIP)
Could be improved:
- MSEG editor is just too technical with the icons on the left. which are not self explanatory and cryptic. I know Documentation is there, but I've seen (easier) implementations at eg. CableGuys. Although I know Z3 is far more complex of course. Possibly the skin could be enhanced with some text (without having to hover) or a on mouse over help (which could be turned off by pros)
- Screen space is very limited. I know where Z3 is coming from, but on a 1440p monitor I'd love to resize the interface, that I'd see more horizontal space for Bus modules and more vertical space for lane modules (on the left and right of the module flow). I hope a future skin or resizable function could add this
Feature Requests:
- Module selector in the FX section (similar to the one in the module lane)
- Module presets (especially for effects, but also welcome for other modules. Eg. to have pre-setup vintage synth like envelopes)
- more screen space skin (said above)
- I know this probably a design decision, but I'd love to have knobs for selection of timebase in LFO
- Readout of values is limited to the top. I'd really love if it could be readable at the knob/fader when changing values. Eg. Softube does this already, and it would improve workflow, as we wouldn't have to look from the knob to the top all the time to get the current value
Last edited by dermage on Thu Dec 11, 2025 3:37 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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- KVRAF
- 4222 posts since 1 Sep, 2016
kraster wrote: Thu Dec 11, 2025 2:37 pm In that patch if you look at the oscillator panel in the main section of the synth (Not the osc1 Tab at the bottom) underneath tune you'll see MSEG1 in the mod slot. To the left of that is a widget (Two vertical arrows facing opposite directions). That controls the depth of the modulation in the slot. If you adjust it you'll see that it's set to 12.
That was the point I was making above. Those slot modulations should appear as modulators in the OSC tab at the bottom.
One thing I did notice is that if I modulate the tune control by dragging from the MSEG node to the tuning knob then the pitch is not scaled correctly but it is on the mod slot. It could be that the slot modulation is scaled logarithmically or something like the Mel scale so it conforms to pitch.
If you drag from the MSEG node to the tuning knob you need to set the amount to 25 for the correct pitch. The MSEG in the osc goes from 0 to 48, but the other MSEG goes to 100. Not sure why they'd use different scaling, that's confusing.
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- KVRist
- 251 posts since 4 Apr, 2020
The presets are fire, Zebra3 sounds amazing.
- u-he
- Topic Starter
- 30180 posts since 8 Aug, 2002 from Berlin
Btw. if I'm not directly reacting to feature requests... keep them coming... we have a whole team that is going to collect all this and process it over time.
- KVRAF
- 3471 posts since 19 Aug, 2008 from USA-lien In the 8th Dimention
Ok, I get itUrs wrote: Thu Dec 11, 2025 2:55 pmHehehe, it seems we have to clarify this a lot... most of our customer support today is this question.abstractcats wrote: Thu Dec 11, 2025 2:39 pm Also, just to clarify, how long do you have to own Zebra Legacy, to get the free / or discounded upgrade, to Zebra 3?
I believe this has been explainde but I've lost the post about that, sorry.
So when Zebra Legacy came out as a product, it replaced Zebra 2 as a product. In the news for it, in forum posts and pretty much everywhere else we were clear that once Zebra Legacy became available, we would *not* include an upgrade path to Zebra 3:
However, due to the frequent questions about it we *might* be offering a coupon code once Zebra 3 is released. But this coupon code, should we offer it, would certainly be less than 70€ towards Zebra 3. Hence, the current pre-order discount (179€ instead of 249€) is the best price possible for some time to come, also for owners of a Zebra Legacy license.u-he website wrote:As Zebra Legacy is such a bargain, we will not be offering a Zebra3 upgrade path from the new 99 € licenses.
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- KVRist
- 60 posts since 31 Aug, 2023
That just changes the opening preset. What I asked for changes the preset loaded whenever the synth is initialized by right clicking the preset display box.Urs wrote: Thu Dec 11, 2025 2:58 pmJust save a preset called "default" (with the .h2p ending) in the root folder ("Local") of the preset library. Works for all u-he plug-ins.reppinghades wrote: Thu Dec 11, 2025 2:52 pm Screenshot 2025-12-11 201229.png
Would appreciate if you could add this option to Zebra3 and later to the other plugins as well. It modifies the init preset loaded whenever the synth is initialized. Right now relying on saving it as an Ableton preset after setting the parameters to the values I prefer and locking them.
- u-he
- Topic Starter
- 30180 posts since 8 Aug, 2002 from Berlin
Ah, ok... no, I don't think we have a solution for that. Can't remember it ever being requested... or I misunderstood.reppinghades wrote: Thu Dec 11, 2025 3:42 pmThat just changes the opening preset. What I asked for changes the preset loaded whenever the synth is initialized by right clicking the preset display box.Urs wrote: Thu Dec 11, 2025 2:58 pmJust save a preset called "default" (with the .h2p ending) in the root folder ("Local") of the preset library. Works for all u-he plug-ins.reppinghades wrote: Thu Dec 11, 2025 2:52 pm Screenshot 2025-12-11 201229.png
Would appreciate if you could add this option to Zebra3 and later to the other plugins as well. It modifies the init preset loaded whenever the synth is initialized. Right now relying on saving it as an Ableton preset after setting the parameters to the values I prefer and locking them.
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- KVRian
- 1076 posts since 26 Jun, 2003 from UK
Good manFunkybot's Evil Twin wrote: Thu Dec 11, 2025 12:58 pm ...I don't even have aftertouch on my main controller!...
Neither do I - I could never get the hang of it
- KVRist
- 462 posts since 2 Jun, 2015 from Belgrade, Serbia
I didn't want to push the "env mod" suggestions any further (because the guys are probably pretty swamped with requests ATM), but it should probably a dedicated knob (unless they maybe do separate knobs for "A", "D" and "R" (or if they do graphical envelopes a la Serum)).

