Native Instruments file for insolvency...

[Magic Russ]

There are a few guitar guys saying that those plugs are useless to them too.

Most guys familiar with amp sim plugins would indeed rather use something else.

I'm in that category too. I think the amp sims are not great. It's as if they somehow make my guitar sound if the strings are two years older and my tuning five cents worse than they really are.

There are some pretty good effects in the package, though.

[ksandvik]

All together, branding NI as Fender is not exactly the way to suddenly have NI making profits. I know we guitar players thing guitars will be forever, and the next gen will take over with guitar playing, and that's just how nostalgia works. I guess similar to what lute players thought long time ago.

But I must confess, Guitar Rig is nice, and I should use that one more for synth work now when I put my guitars to storage.

[nightjar]

All together, branding NI as Fender is not exactly the way to suddenly have NI making profits. I know we guitar players thing guitars will be forever, and the next gen will take over with guitar playing, and that's just how nostalgia works. I guess similar to what lute players thought long time ago.

But I must confess, Guitar Rig is nice, and I should use that one more for synth work now when I put my guitars to storage.

Fender (Servco) buying NI and simply branding as Fender is NOT the basis for hopeful expectations.

It is the resources/culture/vision/leadership they might bring that is the basis for hopeful expectations.

[Weasel-Boy]

It really doesn't take long for an NI related thread like this to de-evolve into a "Lord of the Flies" deal, does it?

[Mr Arkadin]

Hope they helps, it you need further clarification simply ask

Yeah, I really didn't need more word diarrhoea, thanks all the same.

[Sascha Franck]

Awesome so why the need to remove Presonus branding and replace with Fender?

Because they'll be able to reach more users. And because it's Fender now.

Can I buy Presonus Studio One with some added free guitar amp sims? Or do I have to buy Fender Studio Pro?

I'll let you in on another secret: It's owned by Fender. And if they choose to call it that, they can do it. Steinberg's interfaces are now labeled Yamaha, too.

Weirdly they say "recording guitar" front and center as the very first thing, and there is zero mention of Synths

I already told you, it's time for you to accept that now: Those friggin' guitar players are evil!
No.Other.Reason.
Plain torture for you and anyone dealing with those pesky black and white keys!

So when you produce guitar oriented songs you can record your guitar, make drum parts, record vocals, and then mix it all down. No mention of Synths

You are not supposed to use synths with Studio One anymore!
The current version is just a first preview of the future. In two years from now, all synth usage in Studio One will cause you to get a negative remark in Fender's social credit system (that they just licensed from Xi Jinping).

Logic would dictate what you list first in marketing is your focus, and what you don't list at all is something you don't care about

Correct! Finally, synth players are doomed! They can go and probably jam with Suno while guitar players will rule the last bastion of human greatness!

So by all means show me where I can buy the new Presonus Studio One with Presonus branding and without the Fender Guitar Branding where Synths are actually mentioned in the marketing.

You can't! And it was about time!

[Sascha Franck]

duped

[Sascha Franck]

5.)Fender hasn't marketed a keyboard based instrument since 1984 with the Fender Rhodes Mark V

So, which keyboard based instrument was marketed by Presonus?
And yes, I'm aware of that Atom thing.

And which keyboard based instrument was marketed by Apple?

And which keyboard based instrument was marketed by Cockos?

And which keyboard based instrument was marketed by Steinberg (before they were bought by Yamaha)?

[concealed identity]

It really doesn't take long for an NI related thread like this to de-evolve into a "Lord of the Flies" deal, does it?

I prefer to call it a "KVR" deal

My ignore list has reached the population of a small town at this point

[glokraw]

I'm in that category too. I think the amp sims are not great...

BlueCat's Axiom ampsim is actually a massive suite including many great effects, and importantly, can host 3rd party vsts in it's effect chains. I tested that, hosting Amplitube and Guitar Rig...some serious overkill, or
a wondrous playground, depending on the project at hand. Sounding great with ampsims requires some skill and luck combining input levels, EQ, strings, pickups, listening devices, and a decent A-minor arpeggio

[macmoffatt]

Native Instruments file for insolvency.
back on topic.
1.Software
2.Hardware
just stop for a moment and think about what you write, is your (post) comment relevant to the subject.

[HM]

Native Instruments file for insolvency.
back on topic.
1.Software
2.Hardware
just stop for a moment and think about what you write, is your (post) comment relevant to the subject.

Its very easy, boils down to mainly 3 things:

Protect what you can while still posible, so its not tied to a specific computer

1. Save installers/manuals for Izotope, and save an autorisation on iLok, soon as possible

2. Same with Plugin Alliance, I guess there is USB-stick as possiblity, like Waves

3. As for NI you can not not save what is yours longer than your machine keeps running

(The fact that NI can take, what is yours, with them in the grave, is a topic on its own, imho)

Kontakt, the format, is their only real card in the game, but only becourse people are cought
in dependancy. Not a worthy relationship in the first place. Just stop investing in the format,
for obvious reasons. Developers have been betrayed also, and will likely look for own players
like East West and UVI already got. This garbadge is a PITA for them also.

The format might survive somehow, but the "trust" is gone,.. (and maybe better so)

Might be "saved", by some, for now, but when will be the next time we get fooled around ?

As now seen, defacto-formats of this type should not stand or fall with one single compagny

As for NKS, and the hardware, never such big succes either, many controllers went down,
or was quickly rendered useless due to lack og long-term driver/software-support.

I was SO close to be trapped into the 88-key controller, but then they started to apear for
no money on on the seccond hand market, with defective keys, relatively new, but often
shortly after the warrenty was gone. So happy I avoided this problem.

Just like their abandomed software development, hardware was the same story it seems

Izotope and PA is more likely to survive, in some reduced form, NI-itself died years ago

[bermudagold]

Yes, until we Baby boomers no longer purchase guitars as Guitar Center .

but young people are probably buying more guitars than old people who don’t ever play them. shrug.. no reason or facts to stand behind this other than assumptions and going out to gigs locally and seeing who is doing what.

the new guitar market must be entirely propped up by youtube music production influencers...cause every single one has a guitar hanging up in the background of their ring light framed shot that they never take down or play...its literally a requirement and comes with the starter kit if you call the 1800 number

[dayjob]

Yes, until we Baby boomers no longer purchase guitars as Guitar Center .

but young people are probably buying more guitars than old people who don’t ever play them. shrug.. no reason or facts to stand behind this other than assumptions and going out to gigs locally and seeing who is doing what.

the new guitar market must be entirely propped up by youtube music production influencers...cause every single one has a guitar hanging up in the background of their ring light framed shot that they never take down or play...its literally a requirement and comes with the starter kit if you call the 1800 number

non sequitur

[bermudagold]

Yes, until we Baby boomers no longer purchase guitars as Guitar Center .

but young people are probably buying more guitars than old people who don’t ever play them. shrug.. no reason or facts to stand behind this other than assumptions and going out to gigs locally and seeing who is doing what.

the new guitar market must be entirely propped up by youtube music production influencers...cause every single one has a guitar hanging up in the background of their ring light framed shot that they never take down or play...its literally a requirement and comes with the starter kit if you call the 1800 number

non sequitur

geesh...it was sarcasm...u kvrians need to breathe and not take urself so seriously ...yeah had seen the vid previously...good fret, drum, and loop work...but ur example is just as anecdotal as any other on the opposite side,...that is if ur actually trying to argue young people are taking up guitar playing more than previous generations?