Arturia FX Collection 6

[thievedletter]

Still haven't figured out why I can't pay using PayPal though...

Maybe you have some broken 'connection' to Arturia already setup in your Paypal account? There is a way to link sites/stores I know; I cleared out a ton of links awhile back. That or maybe a cookie issue?

Otherwise I wish I could help. I used PayPal though just fine to upgrade.

Thanks, I'll investigate that further.

[Calagan]

I don't get the bad words on Arturia's FX. Maybe because they are cheap and usually sell on a huge bundle, so it looks like you just bought a box of junk and needs to sort what you like and what you don't.

I'm the owner of the FX3 Collections, from which I added some more recent stuff (Coldfire & EfX Motions). I usually really like the Arturia's FX, and like always my favorites may be different from someone else.
For exemple I'm not so fond of the Plate reverb (but I like the spring one), I like the delays but don't use them much (Valhalla delay or EchoBoy do everything I need in one plugin, instead of 3), I like and use regularly the compressors, the modulation FX, the saturation units (Coldfire is my favorite saturation FX ever, with Saturn). Fragments and Motions are also my "must use" when weird is my goal...
So I use these Arturia's FX very often in my music, even though I own (like many others here) plenty of similar plugins : Soundtoys, Eventide, FabFilter, Plugin Alliance, DMG Audio and so on...

I usually don't get it when people say the Arturia's plugins are just decent. They are among the best sounding stuff I have, but the decision to use them is usually not a "sound choice" : it's a "what's the goal" choice.
Arturia are usually very well made in terms of ergonomy, and add features you don't find elsewhere : for exemple if I need a quick but awesome 1176, I usuallly use TrackComp. But if I need a specific preset or a specific tweak on a 1176, I usually use the Arturia's one (because the presets are great, the GUI reproduces the original hardware and you can also use some very useful additional parameters, like the compression's range, the EQ on the sidechain or the time warp).

Some Arturia's plugins, I don't have any replacement for : mostly Coldfire (it makes the weird and the basic warming saturation : both sound awesome), Fragments and Motions. I guess Ambient would be similarly useful as a sound design multi-FX.
What I don't like with Arturia's plugins are :
- the size on the hard drive (it makes no sense to download a basic EQ that occupies several hundred Mo on the HD). I think it's because of their GUI (they seem to add very HQ picture for each size of the plugin GUI). When comparing to FabFilter, it becomes absurd.
- The latency : very often their plugins have latency, sometimes a big one. I would love that latency could be switchable with the choice of downgrading quality or features (for exemple the time warp on compressors : I rarely use it, but it adds a constant 5ms of latency). So I could use their plugins on stage more often.
- The quantity of stuff they give you. I know, I just need not to use what I don't need, but when you own something, you just think you could use it one day. For exemple, I almost never use their preamps, their EQs and their filters (the first plugins they did, by the way). Because I've got some old sessions with some of them on my tracks, I don't want to get rid of them, and like I said they take a HUGE space on my hard drive...

They ask me 99€ for the upgrade to FX6, and I get 9 new plugins : I guess it's a fair proposal...
The tape and the 224 look great, the bus plugins look useful and high quality, I know I will use the ambient one, the 910 could be a nice alternative to the original Eventide's one (that I own and love).

Anyone has some feedback on the usefulness of the bus plugins (peak and transient) for mastering ? Are they that good ?
I already own the Newfangled ones (Elevate, Articulate, Saturate) and love them. I also use DMG Audio's TrackLimit for quicker limiting (I know it's more a track limiter, but I find it pretty transparent also for mastering), but don't have much alternative for mastering quality limiter and transient designers (to master my own music, of course : I'm not a mastering engineer)

[soundman007]

BEWARE! All presets gone of all plugins after installing v6!!

[Calagan]

BEWARE! All presets gone of all plugins after installing v6!!

mmm. Not cool.
I see the update for all plugins (it's not necessary to upgrade to V6 to get the update for all plugins).
Anyone else with this issue ?

[soundman007]

Moreover this is exactly the same problem I had with the synth collection early January. Arturia at that time confirmed the problem and had me download a complete new presets folder from their site. That solved the problem. However they were "so-said" working on it. Almost two months later .. nothing!

[nanostream]

Can’t confirm on my system (Live 12/VST3 on macOS). All presets are still there, as far as I can tell, why wouldn’t they be? Most importantly, all of my own presets, going back to v2 I believe, haven’t been touched by the upgrade.

[soundman007]

Well, it was confirmed by Arturia already in January, here part of the response:

Thank you for reaching Arturia support.
We apologize for this preset issue, the developers teams are aware of this and currently working on fixes.

--> In the meantime here is a workaround that may solve this problem, please close all programs and follow this procedure carefully.

[Calagan]

BEWARE! All presets gone of all plugins after installing v6!!

What OS and what Daw ?
It seems to be link to some user parameters...

[soundman007]

MacMini M2Pro, Sequoia 15.7.3, LogicPro 11.2.2

When it happened with V Collection 11 Pro in January I was still on Sonoma and a lower 11 version of LogicPro.

[telecharge]

Anyone has some feedback on the usefulness of the bus plugins (peak and transient) for mastering ? Are they that good ?
I already own the Newfangled ones (Elevate, Articulate, Saturate) and love them. I also use DMG Audio's TrackLimit for quicker limiting (I know it's more a track limiter, but I find it pretty transparent also for mastering), but don't have much alternative for mastering quality limiter and transient designers (to master my own music, of course : I'm not a mastering engineer)

I'm sure there are use cases, but I don't think using transient shapers/designers at the mastering stage is very common. PEAK looks pretty good, though.
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[nirm123]

Nothing fascinating about it as it's simple not true. Their plugins are being mentioned a lot here, also in gearspace, and are considered among the best in the industry. They first released the "3 filters you'll actually use", back then they weren't being taken that seriously which is justified as till they got to ms-20 their filters weren't really good, but when they got to the "3 compressors you'll actually use" people around here and in gearspace thought that they were amazing and favourly compared them even to softube and UAD, and that has been the case with the 3 modulations, the reverbs, bus effects and basically most of what they released since the 3 compressors.

C'mon pleeeeeease, Arturia FX good???
FX collection might be a nice, low priced opportunity for beginners, but
especially as far as the compressors are concerned there are a hundred better alternatives and their reverbs are not worth even been mentioned, cuz there are many devs who produced better reverbs and Arturia 's synth emus are also not amongst the best ones.

Hard to take a post seriously when it starts with 'pleeeeeease'. You do realize that many of the FX plugins weren't even coded by Arturia, right? Bringing up their synths just shows you don't really know what you're talking about. Most of their post-2017 synths are great, and stand up to the competition. Keep fighting those outdated forum clichés though.

As for the FX bundle itself, obviously not all 39 plugins are great, but a lot of them are top tier. I honestly haven't heard a better tape emulation, and the compressors and modulations are superb. EFX Motion and Coldfire are brilliant. The delays might be a bit so-so (though Brigade is actually pretty cool), but Bus Peak is amazing and I'm really liking the new ambient EFX, the MS-20 filter and many others FXs. Even if you only end up using 20 of them regularly, it’s still incredible value for the money. You could easily mix and master an entire track using just this package

[DCrown]

Well, I don't agree at all. I have way better options for synths and effects. Use whatever you like, I know every Arturia plugin, but wouldn't use most of them ever. There flagship Pigments is a lifeless sleeping pill, but have to admit that the last upgrade is their best, the effect of a sleeping pill has become less. Arturia offers great plugins for beginners, though imo.
You could mix and master a complete album with Waves as proven many times, but Arturia? I don't think so. Even the tutorial video (the post before you) is a joke, it was pain to watch and listen.

Most Arturia synth presets especially from Pigments just don't work in the context of a mix.

[DrOcsid]

It's important sometimes to take a step back and remember the big picture outside of threads like these - generally, the issues people take with Arturia's FX plugins are not the way they sound. The focus is generally more on performance, latency and hard drive space. Sonically Arturia's plugins can perform perfectly well along your UAD or Brainworx or Eventide or Soundtoys. I don't think there's any particular reason you couldn't make a complete album on Arturia plugins only, other than the fact that they don't have a particularly in-depth EQ.

Remember that those brands have critics too, and when any brand's more consensus-agreed-on issues get brought up, those who personally don't like the brand in terms of their own personal taste will feel more empowered to speak on it too. Some of those people typically end up thinking that sense of taste is a reflection of objectivity. There are also people who think Eventide Blackhole has barely any practical utility.

[dumbledog]

BEWARE! All presets gone of all plugins after installing v6!!

So I've had this happen last year, and imagine my surprise this morning when I did indeed find half my presets gone again on my FX plugins; might be because I have my Arturia stuff on a separate drive and I think a suite-wide update broke the file location pointers. I fixed it by:

1. Launching each plugin and seeing which were missing presets (or even missing the GUI last year!)
2. Uninstalling those plugins using the ASC
3. (This is important!) Deleting the presets folder. On MacOS this is in [InstallDrive]Arturia/Presets, I imagine this is similar to Windows
4. Reinstalling the plugins.

So far so good, frustrating as it is.

[noiseboyuk]

As someone who has approximately 100x what I need when it comes to EQ, compression, reverb, choruses, flangers and delays, I'm only really interested in effects that offer something genuinely different. EFX Ambient has my attention - I like all the audio examples used on the product page - https://www.arturia.com/products/softwa ... t/overview . In media work, I very often want to use a familiar acoustic source but changed to be sound-designed (and to do so quickly). I've used Fragments a fair bit and like it, this feels like less in-your-face and eminently useable.

I don't have any of the FX collections yet, but there's a few others that interest me so I might be swayed this time. How are people finding Ambient?