GForce Sequential Prophet-5

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Synthbuilder wrote: Mon Jun 22, 2026 2:32 pm
D-Fusion wrote: Mon Jun 22, 2026 9:23 am... the Gforce Sequential Prophet 5 is more unique since it copies the Analog tuning without any option to turn it off...
The rev 4 has no autotune button as such, but it knows the internal temperature and uses calibration tables which have been created at various temperatures. It is possible for the user to create new tables and erase any previously stored tables. It is recommended to do this if the tuning of the machine is a little loose.
There is literally a tune button on the front panel. And it performs the same function...recalibrating the oscillators for big temp changes. It might be more advanced (I dont know if the older revs had calibration tables or not) but it's still the same point.

The manual says to run the calibration procedure the first time you turn on the instrument to have it calibrate to your particular location and rerun several more times over the next several days. And again if you move to somewhere much warmer or cooler.

"The first time you use the Prophet-5, please run its built-in calibration
procedure. Repeat the calibration procedure as needed over the next few
days of use. The Prophet-5 learns the range of temperatures at your location and will keep itself in tune over this range.

Later, if you use the Prophet-5 in a different environment that is measurably warmer or cooler (on stage, in an air-conditioned studio, and so on) run the calibration procedure again."

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The rest of the post was right about building up the tuning tables however and potentially needing to delete them for troubleshooting.

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There's one HUGE flaw with G-Force Prophet compared to the hardware I haven't seen called out yet. Look at the plugin: what is this "Oscillator 1" and "Oscillator 2" stuff? On the hardware, they're labeled "Oscillator A" and "Oscillator B" respectively. Same for the modulation labels.

I demand this be fixed immediately!

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Funkybot's Evil Twin wrote: Mon Jun 22, 2026 3:29 pm There's one HUGE flaw with G-Force Prophet compared to the hardware I haven't seen called out yet. Look at the plugin: what is this "Oscillator 1" and "Oscillator 2" stuff? On the hardware, they're labeled "Oscillator A" and "Oscillator B" respectively. Same for the modulation labels.

I demand this be fixed immediately!
Definitive proof that it is digital rather than analog :)

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Lol.. I never even noticed that before :)
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Funkybot's Evil Twin wrote: Mon Jun 22, 2026 3:29 pm There's one HUGE flaw with G-Force Prophet compared to the hardware I haven't seen called out yet. Look at the plugin: what is this "Oscillator 1" and "Oscillator 2" stuff? On the hardware, they're labeled "Oscillator A" and "Oscillator B" respectively. Same for the modulation labels.

I demand this be fixed immediately!
Might be a re-issue variant?
There are two kinds of people in the world. And you're not one of them.

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Funkybot's Evil Twin wrote: Mon Jun 22, 2026 3:29 pm There's one HUGE flaw with G-Force Prophet compared to the hardware I haven't seen called out yet. Look at the plugin: what is this "Oscillator 1" and "Oscillator 2" stuff? On the hardware, they're labeled "Oscillator A" and "Oscillator B" respectively. Same for the modulation labels.

I demand this be fixed immediately!
Labeling makes sense to me, 1/2 is digital and A/B analog :hihi:

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0/1 is digital.
And in the theoretical of single digits, numbers limit you to ten whereas alpha limits are twenty-six. At least in western languages. So since numbers are more universal and the theoretical limits are doubtful to be ever reached. Numbers are more inclusive to the worldwide market.
:P

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BBFG# wrote: Mon Jun 22, 2026 5:01 pm Numbers are more inclusive to the worldwide market.
:P
As a stereotypical American, I oppose this. :P

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Funkybot's Evil Twin wrote: Mon Jun 22, 2026 3:27 pm The rest of the post was right about building up the tuning tables however and potentially needing to delete them for troubleshooting.
Yeah but saying "there is no autotune button as such" when there is a button right on the front of the panel clearly visible that says "tune" makes me question anything after that. It's like IvyBirds making up that the VCA envelope controls are right under the VCF envelope controls and therefore easy to make a mistake while performing by grabbing the wrong one... :lol: That the calibration process has been modernized along with the electronics shouldn't be surprising and it doesn't make the automatic tuning process any less than on the older gear. The benefit is that it should be less necessary than on the older gear.

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234north wrote: Mon Jun 22, 2026 7:38 pm
Funkybot's Evil Twin wrote: Mon Jun 22, 2026 3:27 pm The rest of the post was right about building up the tuning tables however and potentially needing to delete them for troubleshooting.
Yeah but saying "there is no autotune button as such" when there is a button right on the front of the panel clearly visible that says "tune" makes me question anything after that. It's like IvyBirds making up that the VCA envelope controls are right under the VCF envelope controls and therefore easy to make a mistake while performing by grabbing the wrong one... :lol: That the calibration process has been modernized along with the electronics shouldn't be surprising and it doesn't make the automatic tuning process any less than on the older gear. The benefit is that it should be less necessary than on the older gear.
AI hallucinations? Faulty human memory? Misspeaking/typing? My next post on this thread will be on tuning. Are you a Rev 4 owner too? Might be interesting to compare notes.

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Funkybot's Evil Twin wrote: Mon Jun 22, 2026 7:42 pm AI hallucinations? Faulty human memory? Misspeaking/typing? My next post on this thread will be on tuning. Are you a Rev 4 owner too? Might be interesting to compare notes.
Mistakes are not allowed when arguing about synthesizers. This is serious business. Lives are at stake.

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Uncle E wrote: Mon Jun 22, 2026 7:57 pm
Funkybot's Evil Twin wrote: Mon Jun 22, 2026 7:42 pm AI hallucinations? Faulty human memory? Misspeaking/typing? My next post on this thread will be on tuning. Are you a Rev 4 owner too? Might be interesting to compare notes.
Mistakes are not allowed when arguing about synthesizers. This is serious business. Lives are at stake.
I mean, it can drift a little....
There are two kinds of people in the world. And you're not one of them.

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Uncle E wrote: Mon Jun 22, 2026 7:57 pm
Funkybot's Evil Twin wrote: Mon Jun 22, 2026 7:42 pm AI hallucinations? Faulty human memory? Misspeaking/typing? My next post on this thread will be on tuning. Are you a Rev 4 owner too? Might be interesting to compare notes.
Mistakes are not allowed when arguing about synthesizers. This is serious business. Lives are at stake.
Please avoid the null tests then.
ABX is enemy to GAS

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Funkybot's Evil Twin wrote: Mon Jun 22, 2026 7:42 pm
234north wrote: Mon Jun 22, 2026 7:38 pm
Funkybot's Evil Twin wrote: Mon Jun 22, 2026 3:27 pm The rest of the post was right about building up the tuning tables however and potentially needing to delete them for troubleshooting.
Yeah but saying "there is no autotune button as such" when there is a button right on the front of the panel clearly visible that says "tune" makes me question anything after that. It's like IvyBirds making up that the VCA envelope controls are right under the VCF envelope controls and therefore easy to make a mistake while performing by grabbing the wrong one... :lol: That the calibration process has been modernized along with the electronics shouldn't be surprising and it doesn't make the automatic tuning process any less than on the older gear. The benefit is that it should be less necessary than on the older gear.
AI hallucinations? Faulty human memory? Misspeaking/typing? My next post on this thread will be on tuning. Are you a Rev 4 owner too? Might be interesting to compare notes.
Tune button is indeed used for calibration, it says in the manual https://sequential.com/wp-content/uploa ... de-1.3.pdf

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